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Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoxingDialogue, Nov 2, 2019.


  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Manny Pacquaio never used to rehydrate an extra 20+lbs from weigh-in to the fight. Same with Floyd. They barely put on an extra 5lbs.

    Canelo was the guy using masking agents, diuretics and other PEDs to cut weight and then rehydrate massively over guys who were not allowed to gain above a certain level or were massively outsized by him.

    That's not a level playing field, that's blatant cheating. When you have such a huge advantage over someone how can you get any props?

    Same with people like Lewis Hamilton, the guy has never had a non-winning car, had the most dominant race car in history and people laud him as the best despite him never being fully tested?
     
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  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about, Pacquiao would officially weigh in at 126 lbs and walk into the ring at near 140 lbs, when he officially weighed in at 130 lbs, he'd walk into the ring at over 140 lbs.

    …..and Pacquiao invented the catchweight scenario, he drained both Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito.
    Pacquiao drained fighters he knew would suffer to make the weight and then refuse to go down to a weight he himself could easily make and refuse to settle at a fair weight for the third and fourth fights with Juan Manuel Marquez.
    Pacquiao would often manipulate a weight stipulation on fighters to benefit himself.

    As for Mayweather, he signed a contract to fight Juan Manuel Marquez at 144 lbs and then purposely didn't make the contracted weight limit and weighed the full 147 lbs weight limit. This against a fighter coming up two weight divisions.
     
  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Please, the parallels in terms of underhandedness from Canelo compared to Pacquiao are not even close.
     
  4. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    What the hell are you going on about?

    Salido was 148 on the night against Lomachenko and was similarly sized against Marquez. And did Pacquiao in any of the four fights look like the physically bigger man in the ring against Marquez? No! In 3 and 4, Marquez was CLEARLY the bigger fighter thanks to the sophisticated PED program that he was on!

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    Oh, and stop peddling lies. MARQUEZ DEMANDED THE 144 CATCHWEIGHT:

    As told to ESPN Deportes:

    “The weight for a fight is a very delicate issue. I am sure we could find a catchweight. Pacquiao does not come in at a full 147 pounds for his welterweight fights. First Pacquiao would have to accept, but I would fight him at a catch-weight of 143 or 144 pounds."

    And Marquez made Mike Alvarado fight him at a catchweight of 143.

    LEARN YOUR FACTS, BOY!!!
     
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  5. TheMotorCityCobra

    TheMotorCityCobra Active Member Full Member

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    Kovalev's next day weight for the Storm Alvarez fight was 185. He's usually between 185-189, so it would have made zero difference. I'm not a Canelo fan at all. never have been, never will be, but these excuses for Kovalev are just getting ridiculous. Especially that he took a dive, that's just flat out lunatic, conspiracy, nonsense. Like, he's going to let himself get absolutely iced at 36, having been KO'ed 2 previous times and hurt badly vs Yarde in the last 3 years. There are much easier ways to take a dive. My god people.
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    In everyone of Pacquiao's fights with Marquez not only did he officially weigh in heavier, but he climbed into the ring heavier than Juan Manuel Marquez. I'm not making this up, HBO put up the fight night weights and Pacquiao was heavier everytime including KTFO6, the fight you morons point to that Marquez turned into the incredible Hulk!

    I think its you that needs to learn your facts!!!!
     
  7. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's disgusting, just no. That'd get people hurt.