KO's Top 12 Junior Welterweights of the 80's.

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    Remember, only achievements inside the 80's are considered and also only those at 140.

    1. Aaron Pryor
    2. Saoul Mamby
    3. Alexis Arguello
    4. Bill Costello
    5. Roger Maywether
    6. Meldrick Taylor
    7. Johnny Bumpus
    8. Patrizio Oliva
    9. Buddy McGirt
    10. Juan Coggi
    11. Frankie Warren
    12. Ronnie Shields
     
  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow! My initial thought is that I love Arguello, but I am not sure he should even make the list at all? His 2 most impactful performances were 2 loses to Pryor and I don’t see an initial win of note? Maybe someone can illuminate me? Or maybe I need a deeper look into the others? That just jumps out at ne
     
  3. salsanchezfan

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    Either that or Kevin Rooney was just secretly really really good.
     
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  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will have to look into this tomorrow if I get time? It seems
    Sang Hyun Kim seems like he deserves a mention and Costello has some nice wins on this list along with a loss to Arguello. I think Costello should be 3 but I have not taken a super close look just yet
     
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    It's a weak lineup, to be fair, with the exception of Pryor, Mamby and perhaps Costello (still lost to Arguello but different division)

    Didn't Chavez compete at JR welter in the 80s? I wonder why he didn't break the list, then
     
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  6. salsanchezfan

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    Mcgirt should be way above Bumphus. Most here should, actually. He never beat anyone useful.
     
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  7. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly ...and he’s arguably # 1
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Chavez had one notable fight at 140 in the 80's and the guy despite an unbeaten record was basically an unknown. Every chance this fight hadn't taken place when the list was compiled too not that it matters much. He doesn't belong on the list.

    As per the thread title and explanation only 80's resume is taken into account. It has a big bearing.
     
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  9. PernellSweetPea

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    I would put Chavez in there if Arguello is, he won the title in May of 1989. but he didn't fight there too much.
     
  10. Jel

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    Pryor is the obvious standout as his title reign took place exclusively in the 80s. He should be top 3 in anyone's all-time divisional list and he's correctly no. 1 here.

    As has been said, it's a real mixed bag from there.

    Like @PhillyPhan69 says, Arguello seems too high and is no. 3 presumably only because of his performance in defeat to Pryor. That doesn't say a lot for the others on the list really.

    By the end of 1989, JCC deserves a spot somewhere on the list. His reign got going in earnest in the 1990s with the win over Taylor but he'd already won the title against Roger Mayweather and made two defenses before year's end in '89 - that's more than enough to be listed here in this mixed bag, I think. But no doubt this could not be fully taken into consideration by KO because of publishing deadlines.
     
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  11. Rope-a-Dope

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    Other than beating Kwang Min Kim, Sang Hyun Kim was washed up by the 80s. The 70s, yes, he had some good wins, but by the 80s he was mostly beating OPBF unknowns and then got demolished by Pryor.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Arguello stopped the number #4 on their list. He took the #1 deep and i reckon he's scoring some points for that.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    Arguello stopped their #4.

    I actually missed that Chavez had his win over Mayweather prior to 1990. I would now agree he should be in the 12 for sure particularly with Mayweather at #5. As you say it's a mixed bag.

    I know why now. The magazine was printed in August and hence missed his win over Mayweather as well as his two defenses. He'd be well up the list.

    Sorry guys.
     
  14. PernellSweetPea

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    Without looking at the list I think you are talking about Billy Costello. I remember watching that on NBC or CBS some time later like 1985. Although Costello was washed up then, but he stopped him I forget what round 4 maybe? He was going to get another title shot and then he stopped boxing because of things happening in Nicaragua. Tragic about Alexis.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    It was just 6 months after Costello lost his title. Costello was 4 years younger and had less than half the fights of Arguello and against lesser opposition.

    Costello too is long dead.