Kostya Tszyu Induction into IBHOF, Your Thoughts?

Stallone's in, yet no De Niro?:nono

 

I can see your point but both did different things.

Whilst Raging Bull is a great film and an amazing performance by De Niro it was a great acting performance and essentially told a great story about a man in which boxing was the back drop. It is a great cinematic achievement

Stallone created the Rocky franchise and it sent ripples far beyond the film world. Its cinematic merits aren't especially great but what it did was ingrain boxing as a cultural point of reference ingrained in generations of people.

How often is Rocky referenced on these forums or in everyday life compared with Raging Bull? How many boxers, trainers, fans have been introduced to boxing via these films or it played an important part in doing it?

Combine the fact that he wrote and starred in it......he is a banker for HOF IMO :good

 

Fantastic fighter was Tszyu i think he deserves it.

 

But De Niro rebuilt LaMotta's reputation in the 80s, and probably helped him into the Hall of Fame; as he humanized the LaMotta story.

Stallone I can see, the Rocky films (minus V) is a guilty pleasure, with the original being an all-time great film.

 

who, Richardson? Cant mean the yorkshire yemeni........Though if McGuigan can get in

 

If we gonna have Stallone and de Niro then why not Carl weathers aka appollo ****ing creed, the silkiest old school warrior of all time. Like mayweather says, if appollo was White he'd still be p4p ATG, they always do it to black slicksters. Gatti dies and he's in the HOF, Creed gives his life up in the ring to a roid using cheat, drago and he doesnt even get a mention. He had two memorable fights with balboa and in the first he won a clear but close unanimous decision. The 2nd fight was very close and despite the referee giving balboa several chances many of which even Steve Smoger would not have given and despite also balboa clearly hitting the canvas first was given a long count that made buster Douglas long count seem like nothing. All this and even then the legend was not given a rubber match. Stallone ducked him once the white media hype machine rolled in.

Even after he was denied a chance to avenge his only defeat to balboa, he still decided to train rocky for his rematch against Lang. And many would say rocky would have had no chance if it had not been for the slick old schools skills he learnt at the hands of Apollo Creed.

 

Creed was given a rubber with Rocky at the end of RockyIII...

 

He was arguably the best of his era but his era wasn't THAT great... Not HOF worthy but as predicted above, yes I have to mention Barry McGuigan whose inclusion deems most significant alphabet title holders of 5 defences or more worthy...

 

We shouldn't forget that the original Rocky was not a film about boxing - it was a love story set against a backdrop of professional prizefighting.

 

definite hall of famer.

terrific puncher.

shame he missed out on oscar de la hoya.

the phillips loss killed that one at the time. atsch

and mayweather.

i thought he should have turned down the hatton fight and went to HBO and build up the floyd fight.

my favourite performance of his is the hurtado fight. :good

 

if they let McGuigan in then Tszyu should get in

 

I would say yes for Kostya without doubt he should be in.He beat some very good fighters as a pro and was always a gent.Lesser fighters and lesser men have got in.

 

fake balboa fights aside, why the **** not? tyson psot 1990 was a reasonable fihter,, trailing off into a joke. tszyu had a couple bad losses, but also had plenty of good wins. its not my criteria, but even zabs gna get into the HOF at some point!

 

it's ok to say his era was'nt that good, if there was a time machine to keep tszyu in his prime at 140 he'd still massacre everything at 140 today.

 

Its Hall of FAME not Hall of Achievement