Kostya Tszyu V Miguel Angel Cotto at 140, who wins?

Tzsyu hits harder than Margo shot for shot. Not p4p either. :deal

 

Wrong....

This thread is 140. If he gets wobbled by the likes of Torres - who is yet to beat a top fighter then he gets KO'd by Tszyu.

The move up in weight actually helped his chin, sometimes logic works in reverse, it certainly did in his case.

 

of course this is just my humbled opinion...I personally don't see him beating cotto...i'd say if they fought 10 times, i see cotto winning at least 7 of them

 

I do actually agree that Hatton is tougher for Tszyu any time, if we take all these guys at their peak. Tszyu looked so uncomfortable and got tired really quick in the clinches, that was the main problem for him. He seemed to lose focus once he realised what Hatton was bringing.

Tszyu's best work is done at range, jab right hand. The turnover time between Cotto/Hatton being inside his reach is far longer for Hatton, and hence Tszyu is less in his comfort zone and has less chance to land his money shots. It's easy logic.

 

Not to be an ass. But how many Cotto or Tszyu fights have you seen to come to this conclusion?

 

I think a Prime Tszyu would have beaten Hatton also... Probably by stoppage, again.

 

The Tszyu that fought Hatton would have also won if the fight didn't take place in England where Hatton was allowed to hit in the nuts (the fight changing moment).

 

Wrong again........

Tszyu never had a great workrate nor fast movement. The ones that had success were the ones that got right in his face - whilst the ones that got chinned were those who gave too much respect to his power (which was huge).

The Hatton/Phillips tactic was very risky and could have resulted in retirement through brain damage if not carried out to perfection. Tszyu CVwise and ability is waaaaaaay ahead of either, but stylewise I would back either 9/10 to win.

 

I've seen a few..I'm actually a fan of both...but everyone seems to be basing this fight off of saturday...remember, Kostya is short...miguel will Tee off on that body unlike saturday against margo who was much taller...once that body softens up...he's going to be on him much more precise and stronger than Hatton did...Cotto is no Phillips or Hatton...he's the real deal, despite what happened Saturday.

 

Yeah, you've also got to consider all the factors if you use Hatton as a reference point.

There is no doubt Tszyu was at least slightly past peak, and that Hatton got away with more than a few questionable tactics. If we consider all things equal, neutral territory, completely fair ref and all at prime I take Tszyu over both.

 

Watch the fight

By the eighth he was surviving on instinct, and wasn't exactly an angel himself in there.

The low blow was shocking, and two points should have been taken, but wasn't the changing factor in the fight

 

So fighting only 3 rounds in 28 months due to a number of injuries, while he was in his mid 30s (and started boxing as a kid, like 8 years old) - Tszyu was at his best?

In his prime, I'd back Tszyu 99 times out of 100... The 1 time being the possibility of England home cooking.

 

Tzsyu and Cotto are actually the same height.

Do you not factor in the leaky defence and dodgy at 140 chin? He was hurt and KD by fighters nowhere near as good as Tszyu on multiple occasions.

Cotto would not be able to tee off to the body because he would not be able to get inside, and whillst throwing a jab Tzsyu would hit him with a counter right hand and knock him out cold.

 

He was slightly past his peak, admittedly, but was as good as Mosley was for Cotto, or DLH for Mayweather, IMO.

Injuries yes, but he made it through training camp and surely had he been in bad shape the fight would have been called off.