I never said Hurtado was past it but he was brutally kod. And i dont think you watched the fight with Whittaker either cause if you did and you had eyes you would know that Hurtado was clearly winning this fight. And WHittaker trained for this fight on crack so dont give me this crap about him being at his very best. WHittaker looked horrible in this fight except for his late comeback ko. Besides this was one of Kostyas best wins, Hurtado had great skills but a glass jaw so it is expected that Kostya would get the kO here. and Darryl Tyson was way past it when Hurtado beat him dont claim that as a great win Tyson was a journeyman at best when they fought. Augustus tough guy but no world beater, Mas was a flop who never amounted to anything. WHat about Ruelas and Gonzalez guys you claim that Tszyu ruined? Anyone who was a fan at that time knows they were past it. And even a past it and blown up LW Ruelas hurt Kostya in that fight.
well im the other way i just entered Rummy's and have been doing Kirks for 3 years. Oh by the way my % is higher than yours. I thought you were a *****. Im just defending my man KT. I know he never got the big fights but it wasnt like he wouldnt take them i mean out of 18 title fights 13 were in the USA. His away from home record was as good as Lennox Lewis but because he doesnt have say a Holyfield on his list people dont rate Tszyu like Lennox. But there careers to me are very much the same. Lewis has Tyson Tszyu has Chavez Lewis won early in his career against very quality opponents as did Tszyu They all did this away from there home soil get next to no credit for doing these feats like as what a American fighter does for fighting all his career at home. Both have there mistakes in McCall and Rahman and Phillips and Hatton. On here Lennox is god because of his win against Holyfield that was what made him. But because Tszyu doesnt have that kind of win his being only the Judah beating. Every man and his dog says he is overated. I feel this is not Tszyu's fault. He would have in his Prime taken on Cotto, Mosley, Dela Hoya, Pacquiao and even PBF but because of risk verse reward KT never got these fights. That is not his fault.
Gonzalez was 29 years old when he fought Tszyu hardly a ****ing 38 year old Mosley now. Yep now did Gonzalez do or win anything after Tszyu NO. 29 years old.
Thats funny you bring up Lewis cause i think him and KT are the most overrated fighters on ESB. And remove the Chavez win from your mouth. Thats like giving Holmes props for beating Ali.:-( And wow your winning % is .2 higher than mine:roll: But it will be guaranteed to drop while mine will go up i have picked 100 more fights. We should make an avatar bet on who has the higher % at the end of the year. Pac,ODlh,Mosley would have all but a beating on KT. At JW i might take KT over Cotto but not at Welter.
Gonzalez was already faded when he fought KT my eyes on memory tell me so age dont have **** to do with it. Benitez,Cuevas,Vargas were all washed up by their mid 20s if you ve been a boxing fan as long as you say you have you would know that. Gonzalez had been a pro and had more wars than Tszyu at the time, im not saying Prime Gonzalez would have beat Tszyu but he would have made it more competetive.
Thats only your opinion that you think they would all put a beating on Tszyu. But i beg to differ because he put a schooling on Forrest in the Amateurs. Anarci i would like to see Floyd or Hopkins go to the UK and fight 15 of there title fights over there like what Leiws and Tszyu did in the USA. Oh wait they would never do that because they might have lost a close decision.
i do know that but i hardly feel 29 years of age and the fact that he had just got robbed against JC Chavez who was ranked 3 by Ring at 140 at the time of there fight that Gonzalez at 29 was well Past it and done. Like i said his trainer said it was the worst beating they had ever seen MAG take.
At least i can say this about my favorite fighter. He never once ducked anyone nor would he turn down a fight with any big name fighter anywhere or at anytime. He never went on vacation.
Yeah and Henry Tillman beat Tyson in the amatuers Duane Bobick beat Larry Holmes. Al Evans kod Tyson etc etc i could keep going on. I hate hearing you foreigners talk about americans going to other countries to fight. US is the Fight capital it is what it is, its always been like that and will be like that for a loooooooong time.
Not so much anymore it should be world wide. I mean do you guys have any talent anymore. top 10 Heavyweights 8 of them are Internationals top 10 Middleweights 9 of them are internationals top ten Welterweights 7 of them are Internationals. Like Bob Dylan said The times they are a changin. After Molsey, Mayweather who will you have Dawson Pavlik who both just lost.
Look at the pfp list and you will see at least 1/2 are americans. Thats 50% of the best while only making up 5% of the worlds population. So you tell me whos dominant. One other thing Las Vegas still has all of the highest gates ever so cut it out with your weak argument. My top 10 1a Pac Phill 1b Floyd US 3 Marquez Mex 4. Martinez Argentina 5. Williams US 6. Montiel Mex 7. Nonito US 8. Bradley US 9. Ward US 10. COtto PR ANd yes Nonito is an american citizen and been here since he was a kid learned to box here so hes american. **** if you wanna get technichal Puerto ricans are americans citizens too so thats 6 americans Martinez lives in Oxnard,Ca Marquez lives here part time Manny trains here **** thats almost the whole damn list!!!!! America is the place to be. Outside of Pac all these guys reside in the Americas. 9.
Florida is neutral territory? atsch In 1994 against a Russian? Tszyu won that fight pretty clearly 97-93.
You have to much love for your former cellblock mate Tszyu won that one...barely and he had a hell of a time but certainly nothing controversial about it.
Tszyu would have to be the most dangerous fighter Floy would have fought in his prime. Corralles, Castillo, Hatton they're not as dangeours as Kostya.I believe any mistakes floy makes he pays for it. And Tszyu had the kind of artillery to smash that shoulder roll defence IMO.. I see Floy running to be honest (if they were to fight). But I got my money he ducks prime Kostya..