Kostya tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather jr!!!!!!

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  1. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While PBF was in his ****ing Prime and Dela Hoya got as close to winning as you get.

    **** Floyd fans know **** all about our sport.

    Like i said and ive said all along.

    Floyd fans will have seen Floyd fight they probably know most of his oppoenents but of PBF's opponents the only fight they would have seen them fight is the one against
    MAYWEATHER.

    Thats what convinces me that they are the dumbest mother ****ing fans out there.

    Or there on Vacation like there hero ***git boy.
     
  2. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Douglas you know what oi meant.

    I was typing so fast cos you got no ****ing clue have you.

    You point out one fight. 1 in Phillips.

    What about have you seen
    Tszyu v Bergman
    Tszyu v Hurtado
    Tszyu v Gonzalez
    Tszyu v Mayweather
    Tszyu v Tackie
    Tszyu v Mitchell 1/2
    Tszyu v Laporte (oh his 4th Pro fight)

    Dont ****ing judge what you know **** all about.

    Oh has mayweather ever fought outside his on country. NO

    Well Tszyu fought 12 or 13 of his 18 World Title fights on Foreign soil.

    Mayweather has never left the USA.

    Daryl you know **** all about the sport you probably couldnt even tell me who
    Jackson Asiku is
    or Hugo Cazares
    or Alexander Alexeev

    This is the problem you havnt probably seen them fight but you can tell me and point out the Tszyu loss to Phillips.

    OH by the way the poster i dont know if it was you who posted the Corley fight and showing how good Mayweather was in that fight somehow failed to show the whole fight.

    Like the part were Corley hurt PBF. Funny about that.
     
  3. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why dont you mention Tszyus fight with Hector LopeZ? The one where he was lucky to get the decision the crowd booed the decision on neutral territory.
     
  4. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I felt he won 115 112 so dont give me that ****. Yeah it was close i give you that but if were talking Prime hear when did you see Tszyu have problems from 1998 to 2003 were i feel he was at his best.

    No one is bringing those facts up the fights that he ruined guys careers.

    I mean he ruined and these fighters were never the same after Tszyu

    Ruelas
    Gonzalez
    Hurtado
    Mitchell
    Tackie
    and of course
    JUDAH who won the first 4 rounds against PBF i feel and he was Prime unbeaten and Tszyu killed him in 2 ****ing rounds.

    Like everyone and including myself have said.

    I feel that Probably more than likely Mayweather wins UD and runs all night.

    BUT THOSE SAYING IT WOULD BE AN EASY FIGHT NEED THERE HEAD EXAMINED.

    Plus like many have mentioned PBF wouldnt fight a Prime Tszyu anyhow he would be on Vacation.

    I mean he has the chance to fight a Prime Pacquiao and he is ****ing hiding what does that tell you.
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: What a joke you are you didnt even watch the ****ing fight cause if you did you would know it was a 10 round fight, how in the hell do you get a 115-112 score out of that? After that first statement i didnt even bother to read the rest. Werent you the one who earlier mentioned that Bowe beat Tyson:huh YOu better do your homework cause your losing credibility.
     
  6. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok i just read another bunch of bull**** you say he ruined Ruelas and Gonzalez career? GTFOH both guys were washed up Ruelas had already loss to a mediocre George Scott kod by ODLH. Gonzalez was also clearly past it and had lost to ODLH,Chavez(draw) and been thru lot of wars at lw. and Hurtado was already brutally kod by Whittaker Man when did you start watching Boxing in 2008? Tell me how did Tszyu ruin those guys? Im surprised you didnt say he ruined Chavez too lol !!!
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Learn to score a fight.
     
  8. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **** off why dont you take some vacation. Like your boy.

    when was that Lopez fight 94 **** thats 16 years ago i was just going off the top of me head.

    I followed Boxing since when i first met Jeff Fenech in 1988 and followed Mike Tyson there after.

    Followed all of Tszyu's career aswell as most Aussie fighters.

    Marvin Hagler rewatched every fight i could get on him.
    Roy Jones
    Bernard Hopkins
    Oscar Dela Hoya
    Julio C Chavez
    Lennox Lewis

    anyway my point Anarci as you know as your a Fellow Kirk's tipper but oh wait thats right you have only tipped 20-8. Which is ****ing useless.

    Everytime i send Kirk a schedule of upcoming fights your proably thinking like most Floyd fans is who is
    Mzonke Fana v Cassius Bayoli dont give me ****.

    Why didnt you respond to the Corley v PBF fight about how the was only the PBF good points not any of were PBF was hurt badly by a ****ing chump like Corley.
     
  9. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it was back 1994 dickhead sorry what i should have had is i had Tszyu winning by 3 rounds.
    so sorry 97-93 there better i cant remember that far back not when you have watched ****ing probably over 10,000 fights.
     
  10. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gonzalez when he fought had a brave fight with Oscar
    losing on the cards.
    He then should have got the nod against JC Chavez but was robbed.

    When he fought Tszyu he was rated as you guessed it the number 4 by Ring mag at 140. Hardly a Chump.

    He had never been on the canvas or even stopped had the best chin in the bussiness.

    Tszyu not only stopped him but his corner men saying after the fight they had never witnessed a beating like that to there man.

    Gonzalez well past his Prime according to Anarci at the ripe old age of 29 years of Age.

    Get a ****ing Clue Anarci. will we continue this lesson.
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Are you drunk? They were talking about Mayweather-ODLH.
     
  12. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey asswhipe check out my record on Rummys challenge where i have one of the highest % on that one. I only played Kirks for the first month and was picking those fights with my heart not my head for instance i picked Lueveano to beat Lopez when i knew he wouldnt win but had to back my homeboy up. On Rummys i picked Lopez so go suck a cawk!! Anytime you want to test my knowledge go right ahead ive probably forgotten more about boxing than you can remember. Another thing I got a decade of being a hardcore fan over you.

    And one other thing ass whipe go read my earlier post im not a ***** fan i dont even like him and stated hes on my **** list right know for being a *****. But i did say i recognize the mans talent and hed win convincingly over Kostya. You will see that i would have even rooted for KT. Im in the top 5 winning % on Rummys theonly reason im not one of the pts leaders is cause i missed a few weeks of fights. I havent played on Kirks since like February.
     
  13. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets talk Hurtado

    Before Tszyu he fought one of the very best in Sweet Pea and lost by a late TKO although being very much in that fight and in fact some thought he may be ahead.

    After Whitaker he reeled off 8 straight wins before getting a shot at Tszyu.
    Some of those wins included a win against Augustus,Mas and Daryl Tyson.

    When fighting Tszyu if i recall at the time Ring had him at either 5 or 6 at 140 maybe even higher.

    He fought Tszyu was stopped brutally in 5 rounds. he later when on to win the WBA 140 title 4 years after that fight.

    When Hurtado fought Tszyu he was close to 27 years of age i guess he was well past his Prime also.
     
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  14. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where does it say that im a Floyd fan ^^^^^!!!!!!
     
  15. gatorage

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    Tszyu was a great fighter ... that lacked a career defining fight.

    And I agree ... his resume doesn't do the guy justice. He's always going to cop some flak with people who think the Phillips fight somehow showed up a weakness against pressure fighters ... and his last ever fight against Hatton where he was valiant but unable to pull the trigger like he used to anymore at 36. Two fights he didn't make weight for on first attempt and had his trainer publically say to postpone one (Phillips because of Tszyu's lawsuit with manager) and the Hatton fight his trainer told him to retire.

    Whether that made any difference or not, who knows ... but there were some warning signs. And let's be honest ... If you start judging fighters by their final fight (and I find Tszyu gets the Hatton fight brought up much more than his contemporaries) ... then you'll find a lot of great fighters looking very human.

    It's easy to forget he was one of the best amateur boxers you'll ever see with every punch in the book. Teddy Atlas and Chris Byrd both said Tszyu was the best boxer as an amateur that they'd ever seen. Sure that doesn't mean much as a professional, but the belief he was a 1-2 fighter is a fallacy.

    Watch his first title fight against Rodriguez, only his fourteenth as a pro and there's a few times where he is so dominant you'd think he was the champ and Rodriguez a challenger. He destroyed the BEST versions of guys like Judah and Mitchell who were great fighters when they stepped into the ring against him.

    Mitchell hadn't been put down in eleven years. Judah was undefeated. Add multiple world champs, multiple undefeated fighters, and he fought them in their backyards ... finally unifying a division that was considered one of the strongest in boxing at that time.

    After TKOing Gonzales who had just come off a decision loss to a prime DLH, Gonzales said Tszyu hit much harder than DLH. Even a guy like Hurtado was coming off a long winning streak (and only losing in the second last round to Whitaker after a strong performance that had him up on the scorecards) and Tszyu showed his body punching, when he went there, was as dangerous as his famed right.

    I think the loss against Phillips, who fought brilliantly that night, showed he could be too arrogant at times ... his corner in that fight even told him to stop throwing bombs but he didn't listen. Unfortunately this moment will always be a question mark because along with a poor performance against a sturdy Lopez early on led to the (mis)belief he struggled with pressure.

    He never got a defining fight against a name superstar ... but every time someone mentioned his name to DLH, Mosely, even Mayweather ... they all said he was a great fighter and one that was universally acknowledged as a talent.

    I'd never count Tszyu out against anyone at 140. In his prime, he was smart, could hurt you head or body, very solid chin (stopped only once on the feet and he walked out of the ring ... and I never saw him hurt to the body) the famed right and one of the most underated hooks off the left jab you'll see. His resume doesn't reflect how at his best, and not his worst, he was as good as anyone at the weight.

    I'd give him a good chance against Mayweather or Pac. That's not to say he'd win ... but I'm comfortable with 50/50.

    In terms of the Hatton fight ... his corner told him to stop ****ing around on the inside with Ricky from the first round. Tszyu didn't listen, his ego made him think he could keep up a pace he hadn't fought at in years, and fight a style he didn't normally fight. Arrogance, age and a lack of desire got him.

    - 'Tszyu, do you feel you're a better fighter now at 35 than you were at 25'
    - 'Tis not true. This shoulder, it aches with the pain from doctor's knife. The rain comes, the achilles that is torn it makes me think of cold russia.'
    - 'So do you feel this will be your last fight?'
    - 'My trainer, he gives me walking stick, tells me I not with the hunger like before. I beat him with stick to prove I have some fight. I look at cheque Hatton give my people, it makes my manager hungry enough for both of us.'
     
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