Kostya Tszyu vs Pacman

The problem with Judah - Tzsyu was that Judah didn't use his head, got upto quick and went down even quicker. Judah lost himself that fight because he has the brain of Zab Judah. It wasn't like Tzsyu cleaned him out like Jackson cleaned out Graham.

 

PAC by TKO....just too fast and KT was a great Jr WW, but he was still beneath the level that PAC is operating on.

 

Look i know you not a big Tszyu fan relentless as well i know from all your post you think he is the most over rated fighter you feel.

But i think in some cases you have a point but i also feel you can only fight who wants to fight you and who you can get fights with.

Tszyu for one thing you do and should agree on is he would fight anyone anywhere and its not his fault he was one of the most avoided fighters from 1995-2005 the years he was champ.

He made most fighters retire after beating them or them looking never the same fighter they once were.

He fought more guys in there Prime than most Champs ever do.

And he fought Ex Champs from his 4th Pro fight onwards.


Something most fighter dont do until they have had at least 20 fights these days.

I feel unlike most would give most of the better fighters he never faced tougher fights than what we are seeing today.

I feel he would give a tougher fight to PBF than say PBF's last 10 opponents with the exception being ODH.

I feel he would have gave Cotto if he faced Cotto a ****ing battle for his life.

I feel he would have gave JMM a battle as well.

I feel Mosley he would have gave a battle to as well but Mosley jumped Tszyu's weight.

I feel he would have gave anyone on anyday the fight of there life.

In his 2 loses he gave Hatton hell aswell as Phillips.

Not his best moments but both could be excused but Tszyu being Tszyu he never made excuses.

I feel Tszyu would give Pacman a tougher fight than say Cotto, Hatton, Clottey and what Margo will.
Only because of his style.

He ****ing owned Southpaws and it didnt even matter about fast southpaws i.e Zab at that time in his career was as fast as Pacman.

 

Yeah but Pacman style is not exactly what Hattons and Phillips was now is it.

No is closer to Judah's and Mitchell's who in 3 fights those fights lastest a total of 12 rounds in 3 fights.

 

Look relentless i know Mosley is a great friend of Tszyu's and Mosley rates him highly and that is enough for me.

For Sugar Shane to call Tszyu one of the best 140 fighters of all time means alot more than for you or me to say what we say or see about KT.

 

That wasn't the best version of Zab. The best version was the one that beat a bigger Cory spinks years later. The one KT got was still a fine Zab Judah, but he was very young, green and immature as seen with the post fight antics.

 

OK thats your opinion but my opinion is after that loss Judah was never the same. Thats my whole point. Tszyu in las vegas was a 3/1 underdog for that fight.

 

Lol I know that guy, and those 2 rounds were against a dangerous fighter in the first part of a fight

 

I'd go further and say he would knock Cotto and JMM out.

I don't feel he could beat Mosley, I think Shane would knock him out. I'd just like to point out that Shane didn't jump LWW to avoid Tzsyu, he jumped weight to fight the second best fighter in the world and to earn a massive payday (I'm not saying you implied Mosley ducked him, I just didn't want anyone jumping to that conclusion :good)

If a prime Tzsyu was around now. The one that KOed Ruelas and Hurtardo. I think he would be Manny's toughest fight since JMM at 130, even if I think he loses a decision.

 

Tszyu had elite boxing skills near or on par with Mayweather Jr. He just chose to blast guys once he realized he had the power to do so instead of fighting smart and using ring generalship like Mayweather Jr. does.

Pacquiao doesn't have anywhere near the boxing acumen of either guy and usually relies on his speed and reflexes to get by as evidenced when getting outboxed badly by JMM in both fights.

He would get iced by Tszyu with the way he lunges in and given a boxing lesson against Mayweather(if that fight ever happens).

 

I think the stoppage was premature

 

Kostya would have inflicted career ending damage on Zab in the very next round had the ref allowed Judah to fight on.

 

Show me one bit of footage where a fighter got knocked down, got up, then fell down again, got back up, then fought on without a problem.

He was out of it.

 

Given the importance of the bout and how it had played out up until then I thought Nady should have let it go on.

That being said it wasnt a bad or controversial stoppage..and if it only took Tsyzu that long to land a half decent shot that obviously had Judah absolutely ****ed, then I cant see Zab avoiding another one for very long.

 

I'm sure you really pored over this one to reach a decision.