Kostya was shot

Them being accountable means I can google them and sit here and laugh at their stupid asses when they make hideous mistakes like that. That's all it means. If they were really accountable in any true sense and had any sort of feeling for the sport or concept of credibility they wouldn't have lined up for De La Panties.

If you want to put a great deal stock in them, great for you guys. But from my point of view they aren't sealing any arguments, and the debate will rumble on. At very best they can support an argument, nothing more.

 

I don't think they are posted as 'gospel', I said you can pot shot and find mistakes but you can at least use them as a starting point and not just dismiss them as "proving nothing" and having "no credibility".

I've never been a big fan of P4P ranking for the reasons you put but given that this is how most people tend to compile them its not really the Rings fault that fighters past their prime manage to stay in longer than their current form says they should.

 

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The Ring magazine now owned by this man - dodgy as ****

 

Well at least you've shifted from you original position on the rankings....

"De La Panties" was slightly funny 9 months ago, you've been spending too much time with the 14 year olds on the General Forum...

You may think it smart to be cynical and world weary about the Ring rankings/ DLH connection but what actual problems do you have with the rankings in the weight divisions? They are generally pretty good IMHO.

 

Is that your fireplace?

 

No it was the Ring Magazine Official Rankings Boss's Fireplace - him and Oscar have a special relationship

 

I'll have a look at them, you can't say I'm not charitable at the weekend :hey

Firstly, the p4p rankings. An obvious mistake is Hopkins ranked inexplicably at 4, but as a Calzaghe fan we'll brush that under the carpet for now

I don't like Chagaev ranked 3 in the heavyweight division, you are not the third best heavyweight if you can't even get yourself into shape to fight due to illness. Even in this division. These are the sort of intricacies the ring ignore.

Cruiser not bad overall, although I fail to see how you justify Wlodarczyk over Arslan, who is an actual world champion coming off a good win. Also Bell above Maccarinelli seems strange, Bell just flat out quits against a former LHW after disapearing like Lord Lucan, at least Macca got knocked out by the best

LHW..Hopkins..too high..recurring theme. Oscar "Golden Panties" De La Hoya MIGHT just have had a say here. Dawson should be 2, perhaps even 1.

SMW..Mundine is fighting cans in Australia, Bute should be above him.

Middle is fine

JMW...Oscar #3. atsch What the hell has the Golden Goose done recently that is relevant?

WW are very good rankings

Can't argue with JWW much, but for me Malignaggi lost to a guy ranked 5 on that list, and I think many of those will beat him. More a h2h quibble than anything substantial.

Campbell should probably be above Casamayor. Pacquiao is way too high for a guy that beat David ****ing Diaz..christ sake. Another thing I hate about ring rankings, p4p guys just barge in at new divisions

Pacquiao is also 1 at SFW, which doesn't really sit well with me. Valero has cleaned out the cans and the stockroom is looking really bare right now, I don't know they got him 4 above Soto, Barrios even ****ing Arthur fought more legit opposition

I'm done.

 

Not a bad set of rankings all in all then? TBH I don't care about the P4P rankings and never have, they are just a bit of fun for fans to kill a bit of time IMHO.

 

Not terrible at the moment, but give them time.

Hopkins is a bad mistake though. Not quite on the Castillo level, as he'll always be competetive, but not clever all the same. 4th best fighter in the world that fights 4 rounds and then hugs more than Hatton and Ruiz combined

De La Hoya ranked #3 at 154 too. Last opponent - Steve Forbes, the former lightweight that never fought in this division. Floyd Mayweather, the former welterweight, LWW, LW and SFW that never fought in this division. We have to go back 2 years to when he actually fought a relevant name in this division, Mayorga.

Unsuprisingly, the worst errors are made in favour of those with vested interests.

TFFP Credibility rating - 0, ZERO, ZILCH, NOTHING, EKKERT.

 

Strange post man, little weird aint ya !!!

 

I agree on Pac and ODL, both too high with what they've achieved at the weights.

"Give them time"? Maybe....

 

:deal

 

Oh ya, Pacquiao is a bit of a shocker too. I swear thats like the joker of the pack, they threw in there to see if people noticed

He's the 3 best lightweight in the world after beating David Diaz, and the Champ at SFW. Everything that Juan Diaz did previously counts for nothing since its Pacquiao.

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*except Trotter

 

Are they the worst or just the most high profile? Its a good set of rankings given there must be close on 300 boxers ranked. It must be nearly as good as you can come up with?

 

Since Oscar took over they have definitely lost some credibility. They were held in very high esteem prior, but have lost a bit of cred'. Here are some of the older yearly rankings dating back to the 1920s.

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