Kov being Kov

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  1. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most shouldnt and wont i dont think.... even tho I prefer to watch Kov's fights, I think Ward has his number. Ward is a master at nullifying opposition. Might not be the best to watch this fight due to how dangerous Kov is and Ward will not take any chances and just out point him again.
     
  2. delboy82

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    but you say he was told to sell a fight ... well there was no fight to sell with Adonis. Plus as i said there is no chance of Kov being able to trash talk if no-one knew who he was or had a camera infront of him to do so. He never had the platform or fan base to trash talk talk to the masses before. I dont see Kov being the type who is a puppet, he comes across as being very much his own man.

    Doesnt matter anyway, doesnt influence the outcome of the fight IMO.
     
  3. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    There was no fight because Stevenson left HBO after he agreed to fight Kovalev on that network.

    And I am sure Kovalev didn't trash talk his opponents when he was an amateur in Russia or when he fought in Russia as a pro.
     
  4. delboy82

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    Are you sure ? or are you just guessing ... as I said he wasnt as popular back then and didnt have the platform to so you are just assuming he didnt ... what we do know is that when he has had the chance and the platform to speak his mind he has.

    Do you think he is a puppet type of person that would do whatever Duva told him ..... im almost certain that Duva would not have told him to pose with the ****** t shirt as a dig to Adonis. Do you?
     
  5. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    I don't recall Kovalev talking trash before he was fighting Chilemba in Russia, my assumption is based on that. Sure he didn't say things to Chilemba like what he said to Ward.

    Kovalev is not a puppet, he is just under contract and told what to do, simple as that. He wore that t-shirt because he wasn't familiar with the political correctness of America.
     
  6. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is clutching at straws c'mon. You say he isnt a puppet but he does what he is told. Thats a contradiction, and not buying the nonsense about the t-shirt. That reference is world wide not just to America it maybe more tolerated in Russia. But again you are picking and choosing for your own agenda, either Duva tells him what to do infront of camera's or on social media or she doesnt. According to you she does tell him what to do when it suits you but Kov's decision other times.

    As I said it means nothing in this fight, wont affect the outcome in the slightest
     
  7. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Duva tells him to talk trash. I don't think she tells him exactly what he can say and what he can't, she just wants Kov to talk some **** that's it. So Kovalev thought that t-shirt would be a good idea as a form of trash talking Stevenson when that fight was talked out. I see no contradiction here.
     
  8. 3rdegree

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    Kov wanted to smash the billy goat right then and there. Can hardly blame Sergei for walking away rather than engaging him. The hatred Kov has for Ward is genuine. Posturing and who holds a stare the longest is meaningless when determining the possible outcome of a fight.
     
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  9. delboy82

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    no the contradiction was when you said he is not a puppet but he does what he is told ... your words not mine
     
  10. deyell

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    That's not a contradiction, that just depends on how you would define a puppet. I don't think that those people are puppets who are told by their bosses what to do. Anyway, this debate is not about boxing anymore, so I think we should stop that now.
     
  11. radupidu

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    Someone asked the very same question to huge Ward fan, coach and boxing insider Breadman Edwards.

    Hello, Bread! Ward-Kovalev 2: What do you think about Kovalev not being able to hold an eye contact 3 times during face-off on 3 city conference tour recently? From my point it shows some mental weakness from Kovalev, and he definitely feels not on his plate. Can this sort of things be a factor in a fight, in this particular and in general? I think Froch had similar issue during Froch-Groves 2 fight but he knocked him out.

    Bread’s Response: I don’t hold much value in who can stare at someone the longest. Sometimes a guy just doesn’t want to smell another man’s breath that long. As you said, Froch KO'd Groves in their rematch. I’ve seen Tito Trinidad and Manny Pacquiao smile and jump around then all of a sudden they turn into killers once the bell rings. It’s not that big of a deal.

    But hey, dont believe him. What does he know, right ?!
     
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  12. delboy82

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    spot on .... Iv never seen a fighter deliver a knock out "stare" before.
     
  13. Nay_Sayer

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    I would disagree. Tyson had lots of guys beat before they stepped into the ring. Michael Spinks immediately comes to mind..
     
  14. Cafe

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    Walters v Lomachenko for recent example, though Loma didn't really do anything in the build up Walters seemed shook for some reaosn.
     
  15. Cafe

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    Thing is some guys respond differently to fear that's one thing that's often overlooked by most people, everyone thinks that someone who's afraid will always run etc... Fear results in a flight or fight response. Kovalev definitely strikes me as the latter kind. So even if he was shook which of course he isn't but let's entertain the thought, you don't necesserily want him to be shook.