How am I deflecting, I'm the one that called you out. You described Kovalev and Dawson as not being great, so by your logic, is Andre Ward great?
Two losses(first loss was close) to an A class fighter who's arguably #1 P4P and all of a sudden he's a "wasted talent"?.
Just as I thought. You jumped into the thread with really nothing to say. Better luck next time, dude.
No, you just backed yourself into a corner. I'm of the opinion Kovalev and Ward are great fighters. I have no problem stating that. But I'm the one that called you out...do you believe Ward is a great fighter? Why the hell can't you answer that.
uh huh.. "Better luck next time, dude." indeed. [url]https://m.popkey.co/185938/xqr04_s-200x150.gif[/url]
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the first fight was even really. dont forget Krusha has KRUSHED elite Pascal twice too. Thats three elites on his resume, 2 win, 1 draw (really), 1 loss. Pretty good really, and a strong case for KRUSHER being elite. Not forgetting a set of world level and fringe world level wins. Not great as in ATG though, not yet. However if ward goes on to become an ATG, then KRUSHER will then have a prime ATG draw (really) on his resume, and that will go some way in retrospect towards carrying him up in estimation.
Anybody who states Ward is great and states Kovalev is not is very blinkered when it comes to judging somebodies skill-sets, considering the "Good" Kovalev beat the "great" Ward in their first match and was up in the scorecards in this one before ball-smacking occurred.
now you are inventing stuff. the first fight can be considered a draw, the 2nd fight is the completel opposite of the win you are trying to argue it for. do not use kliturd logic please. black isnt white and up isnt down.
Pascal is not Elite. He's an A fighter, but no he's not elite. There's very few elite fighters every year in boxing. My current elite: Andre Ward, Canelo Alvarez, Terence Crawford, Keith Thurman, Lomachenko, Carl Frampton, Leo Santa Cruz, Erislandy Lara and Golovkin. There's guys on the brink like Errol Spence, Wangek, Roman Gonzales, Joshua. There's probably guys at the super low weights I don't follow that close that could be considered elite as well. It's a small list. Manny, Kov, Usyk, Garcia, Gary Russell, Jermall Charlo, Inoue. I hold Elite fighters to a really high standard.