Kovalev tried to win without throwing a single power punch?

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Considering he gassed, and got knocked out, it wouldn't be a fight winning strategy.
     
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  2. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    Kids of reminded me of Mayweather vs McGregor, just with a more brutal ending
     
  3. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing is so crooked
     
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  4. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Canelo was also a small target using a high guard plus head movement. I've seen this apparent "failure to throw big" often when bigger guys fight smaller skilled fighters. I saw it in Pacquiao - De La Hoya, Sergio Martinez -- Cotto, and others. Even to some degree Lomachenko vs Rigo -- except here Loma used the small pitty-pat jabs effectively to overwhelm Rigo.

    Bigger guys with big rights hands who are quick *at their weight* land easy against other big guys. The equation changes when the agile big guy faces a much more agile smaller guy. All of a sudden he struggles to find the small, compact target, so he starts using range finder jabs. This is what happened last night.

    Kovalev would have loved to unleash big right hands. Of course! But he couldn't!

    And the people claiming dive on here are just utter morons.
     
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  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    It’s hard to throw power punches with confidence when you know your opponent is ready to counter you hard. Kovalev had the right gameplan and it was winning him rounds and troubling/confusing Alvarez. Eventually he tired as the fight went and had to handle Alvarez’ power. Obviously, he couldn’t and the result is obvious. Credit needs to be given to Alvarez for that, but of course, that will never be the case with the plebs here. :lol:
     
  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It looked a little like McGregor’s fight plan vs Floyd!
    Obviously with a more skilled set for Krusher. But oddly similar.
     
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  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Some of you really don't understand boxing.

    So Kovalev fighting timid because he was afraid of getting countered is now basis to call a fight fixed?

    Then I guess both GGG fights were fixed too because he fought timid as hell and did not throw body punches as he normally does.

    I guess the Lara fight was also fixed because he had never ran as much before or after.

    The Cotto fight was also fixed because Cotto fought very timid as well...

    .... or it could be that perhaps fighters can't deal with Canelo's power counters.

    Morons lol
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Only Kovalev started with the pitter pat pawing jab from the get go and Canelo really didn't use a lot of head and waist movement for the simple reason he didn't have to against such pitter patting. Instead Canelo wisely used a high guard defense not only to block but to measure the intensity of Kovalev's incoming.

    Kovalev I feel is really a better boxer than what he let out against Canelo.
    I think instead, Kovalev should have stuck a hard jab to Canelo's body against that high guard defense Canelo was employing.
    If I were Kovalev I would have jabbed Canelo's body hard and aimed my right hand straight at Canelo's left forearm taking away his left hook counter.
    Kovalev never really deviated from the instructions from McGirt to just keep with the jab with the patheitc intensity he was doing.

    How do you bring down a high guard defense when you're the bigger harder puncher?? You aim straight at the chest to hit the arms and elbows that are tucked in that shell defense.

    I think Kovalev would have lost regardless of what strategy he employed because
    if he would have brought out more power, Canelo would have employed more waist and head movement, but at the very least Kovalev would have had a better chance imo bringing out his power to test Canelo at that weight.

    I don't agree with you that Kovalev was forced to use pitter patter by Canelo. This was done by Kovalev from the very start on the instruction of Buddy McGirt, and in fact there was a point in the middle rounds where Canelo started retreating, circling his laterals and imo needing a breather, going to the ropes to rest some and fight off of their. I gave that round to Kovalev in that it was one of the few rounds where Kovalev chased and actually looked to land with something behind his punches.
    …...at the end of that round though, McGirts instruction to Kovalev was " don't fall into his trap, Canelo is setting a trap to catch you coming in, keep with the jab."
    McGirt in the corner said something along those lines and imo because Kovalev has a tendency to fade in fights, really shut down any opportunity for Kovalev to land with anything that was effective and keep Canelo leary to get hit with power.
    Not only did Kovalev fail in the fight, but imo so did McGirt.
    Reynoso in Canelo's corner definitely outmaneuvered McGirt in Kovalev's corner.
     
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  9. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    How did Golovkin fight timid?

    In their first fight he waded forward recklessly.

    In their rematch he stood mid range and picked him off with the jab.

    As for body punches, he couldn’t as he’d be countered, however at no point did he fight timid.

    You are like the Goebbels of this forum.
     
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  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    The KO artist who begged Mexican style shelled up and flicked out jabs all night.

    No body attack. No Mexican style. Not his usual fight style against Canelo. Similar to how Cotto and Kovalev also did not use their similar aggressive style we are accustomed to seeing. That's what I'm saying. Canelo counters are deadly and they all knew it. He proved it last night

    And NEW LtHW champion of the wooooooorld! :ibutt

    Lol
     
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  11. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Canelo deserves the credit for last night show me a post where I’ve said anything different.

    However if you think Golovkin fought timid in their rematch then WTF was Canelo doing in their first fight? He was literally on his toes all night.

    Keep it going Goebbels
     
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  12. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Who landed more power punches? In both fights.

    Who landed the better power punches?

    And

    Who took more risks. That's all I gotta say about that.
     
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  13. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Who was wobbled and hurt and outboxed?

    Im glad that’s all you have to say because you are mentally challenged, go ALT up!!
     
  14. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Lol, you mad!

    And NEEEEWWWW!!!!!!
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No idea what you people are watching. What's wrong with you all? Kovalev was terrible, sure, but i've read that he "threw no more than three or four power punches" earlier today, and now, according to this hot mess, he threw NO power punches.

    What is it that makes you guys tick? Why, when something goes badly, do you feel the need to make up total nonsense to make it appear worse? It's such an odd way to behave.

    There's loads and loads and loads to discuss relating to this fight - save "Let's Pretend" for school, which I presume you are still in.
     
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