Kovalev vs Froch. Who wins?

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You know that shot that little shot that knocked Froch unconscious that he woke up from the moment he touched the canvass against Groves? Yeah, same thing here, only the canvass wouldn't wake him, smelling salts would.
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, but Ward has something called skills...
     
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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would say Kovalev by KO inside of 6 rounds

    I will say that I think Froch is skilled in an unconventional type of way. What I mean is he has lots of textbook and obvious flaws. However, he made them work and beat plenty of guys he "should" have lost to. I think Froch understood distance well and that made up for defensive deficiencies and I think he had a good jab and knew how to set up his shots. I think he paced himself well and from the Kessler fights was very good at responding to his opponents attacks. also i think he is economical in the sense that he isnt flashy but gets the most out of everything he does

    I mean in reality he lost a pick em fight to Kessler and was dominated by Ward but fought hard and had nothing to be ashamed of

    I dont want to over analyze a fight that I would see as easy to predict but Froch does do a lot of things that have been a problem for Kovalev. He had a hell of a gas tank and great recuperative abilities. He also was a good body puncher and could get rough when he needed to like vs Dirrel. Kovalev can tire, doesnt respond well to rough housing and for me can be some what predictable in the sense that he doesnt have the largest punch variety. maybe i am wrong to make this assumption but moving up Froch would probably be faster at 175 being naturally smaller. He isnt a very fast 168 fighter but at 175 might be the faster fighter

    My problem with giving Froch a chance is this:

    Ward: I hate to do the triangular logic of this fighter did this vs this fighter and that fighter so a fight between those 2 would end up in this result but Ward dominated Froch and Kovalev out boxed Ward in the first fight and for parts of the rematch. To me that shows a difference in class between Ward and Kovalev being ahead of Froch

    175: Froch never had any high profile fights there. I made a point about speed earlier but thats really a guess considering we dont know how he would pack the weight on and how that would change his performance. Ward went up there so we saw him vs Kovalev two times so we can very accurately asses how he would do vs other 175lb fighters but with Froch we cannot really do that

    Rocked: I mentioned ability to recover which is great but I think the fact that he gets into the danger zone as much as he does would not bode well for Kovalev who I dont think would let him off the hook. He got buzzed by Dirrel and Pascal and dropped by Taylor and Groves. I dont think he would survive onslaught when Kovalev gets to him

    and for those reasons I pick Kovalev in the first half
     
  4. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch's idea of defense is blocking with his face. Not a good strategy against a puncher like Kovalev.
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    So does froch.
     
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  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, those skills were very apparent when Froch faced Ward...
     
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  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Yes, I agree, it's pretty obvious to me that there is something else that I dont see, and that it is there. I just dont see it, and even if I feel that there is "something".... well, maybe it is sheer will, or sheer luck (it's not)... I mean, since I dont know what it is, I can only admit that I dont know enough about boxing to appreciate Froch's boxing. So I wont lie, I just see nothing. Is there any more? sure, it's obvious, as I say, look at his record, it's extremelly good, more than good, even more than excelent.... but I just cant see that, so I cannot go full hipster and say "oh yeah, he's so good, I can see that" when I actually can't :(

    But sure that he deservers much more than what I give to him. And it's not his fault if I cannot see why, it's mine. But I wont say what I dont feel or see. It seems I still have a lot learn, that's not something bad though.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Froch had a great jab but didn`t use it enough, Kovalev uses his jab much more and uses it more effectively.
     
  9. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    I think these guys have pretty similar power..
    Kovelev is better boxer for sure, but Froch has way more heart and takes much better punches. When he's been knocked down, he gets up and fights back like a man...

    For this main reason i pick Froch to overcome some early punishment to walk down and batter kovelev along the ropes into stoppage
     
  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch had similar power to Kov??????

    Oh Dear God...
     
  11. Dario Argento

    Dario Argento The exotic Waitress banned Full Member

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    Kovalev is more talented than Froch.
     
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  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch's "power" comes from his one punch KO of George Groves who left his chin in the air and got clocked.

    He has never shown that sort of power before. Froch was an accumulation puncher with a great engine.
     
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    Jamzy ⭐ Active Member Full Member

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  14. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Kova gasses late on froch cracks that tired rusky
    to much tempo from froch late on
    just my opinion
    now I still lean in froch favour as Kova is mentally done
    Froch v Adonis similar out come
    Before froch retired i posted else where his last three fights after groves one should have been
    Adonis Kova then the ward rematch
    But any fighter looking to retire as the right to do so imo
     
  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Good factual post
    only seen ward dominate froch both mentally and physically
    Groves came close but froch cut that career a lot shorter than it should have been
     
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