Kovalev vs. prime Tarver

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  1. Brock Rock

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    I rate Kovalev. I think he would fight anyone who is near his weight class and would have too much power here for Tarver. It might be a decision because Tarver has a pretty tough chin but if he feels Kovalevs power early then he may be hesitant to engage which would lead to a Kov UD.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Troll away at the other posters, but at least be intelligent about it Flea.
    You're bottom feeding with Dino!

    Maybe you should stick to threads below 147 pounds?
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Originally Posted by Flea Man

    Tarver carried his power to heavyweight.

    Kov was sparked in the amateurs and dropped by Boone. And briefly hurt by B-Hop in the 12th. And he does get flustered a bit when hit, although he recovers quickly.

    Hmmm, Hopkins himself is a known x-convict and racists. Some of his fans are too. Perhaps this is why Mr. Flea is upset as Kovalev toyed with Hopkins. Just speculation on a trolling thread....
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    All jokes aside, Kovalev wouldn't stop Tarver.

    I know more about everything than you. Perhaps you shouldn't post at all?


    I am white. And seeing as I'm writing a massive retrospective on Soviet /ex-USSR fighters, I'm hardly biased against fighters from that region.
     
  5. Mendoza

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    Flea,

    Glad to hear you think you know more about everything. Please do enlighten us!

    Will be glad to read your massive retrospect on the X-USSR fighters though I think a few that post here might know a bit more on some of them, including myself.

    You do seem a bit biased and incorrect on Kovalev. He's not just a mere puncher. He's got a great jab, can combo, and has the ability to quickly make adjustments in fights. Kovalev is cleaning out the best in his division.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    You know nothing of what I know. I have already applauded Kovalev for his ability to shift through stances, his timing and footwork. Just not on here.

    I've seen some of your threads on fighters from the former USSR. Misinformed doesn't come close. You didn't even know Miroschnichenko had pro bouts!

    And also, there are plenty more knowledgeable posters here than myself. You are definitely not one of them.
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    So in other words I have not read it. Until then your comment that Kovalev's chin is dismal tells me all I need to know about your boxing acumen.

    Which threads are you talking about? I know a good deal about past amateurs, and current pros pre 1970 from the X Soviet block. I myself have authored a few here.

    [url]http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=51576[/url]

    I'll end agreeing with you. Looking forward to your piece. If it’s legit, I'll applaud it. If its garbage al la Kovaelv has a dismal chin, you'll be corrected by many here who know more than you, including myself.

    Cheers.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    You are a joke and have proven that many, many times over.

    I couldn't give a rats **** what you think of me and sincerely hope you DON'T read any of my work, because it would be wasted on you.
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Whatever " Flea Man " If your article is anything like the dismal chin comment your " work " will be inadvertently funny. If its good, I'll say so. Press on!

    And speaking of funny, gotta love that purple and yellow shirt. Yes I spent a minute of my life on your twitter account. I didn't learn much, but it drew a smile.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

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    Tarver by decision and possibly by KO, faster, rangier, bigger, bigger straighter punches. An opponent coming to him that isn't too hard to hit really suits him stylistically.

    People underrate what he did clearly weren't paying attention to the division at the time. He cleaned out all the cream off the division. Reggie Johnson and Harding are better than anyone Kovalev's beat.

    Tarver is a massive puncher you utter spastic. No one had stopped Harding and Tarver probably ruined Jones.

    Shock horror Mendoza backs the white guy as per usual
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Tarver a massive puncher? GET OUT! No, he is not. You won't find many who agree with you, then again your foolish.

    Cashing in on Roy Jones glass jaw does not make him a puncher.

    Tarver took many guys the distance. Among them were Dawson, Aguilera, Woods, Muriqi, Hopkins, Griffin, G Johnson 2x, and R Johnson. Tarver's KO% is below 60%.

    Where is this massive puncher and why didn't he stop some of the above names? I pick who I think wins. Your baseless comments on race mean Jack, but I have noticed who you root against.

    PS: If the light punching Eric Harding can drop and beat Tarver, just imagine what Kovalev would do to him. If you barely beat Reggie Johnson, and lose a decision to Glenn Johnson, you are not out boxing Kovalev either.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    Your method of looking at KO percentage to ascertain if someone is a puncher or not is flawed. On that basis Langford and Satterfield weren't puncher, although they clearly were.

    I understand boxing, you don't you haven't boxed and you don't understand the mechanics. The posters on this thread that understand boxing mechanics consider Tarver a puncher. If you watch his fights in his prime its clear he can bang and most fighters go into a shell against him.

    Watch Tarver Harding 2 and come back and say Tarver wasn't a puncher. As for Tarver being flawed in the first fight, it was when he was inexperienced and he obviously improved around the time of the rematch.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Just explain to be why such as massive puncher to use your own words could not floor or KO the names I mentioned.

    Massive punchers have high KO% unless then get knocked out a lot and lack skills. Tarver had skills, and was durable so using the old Satterfield as a defense doesn't wash.
     
  14. Halfordscream

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    High KO % just like a great WIN % can mean nothing at all if you fight bums, old men, or lousy talent.

    A great puncher can have a much lower KO% if was pushed to the top early and fights tough comp (i.e., guys who won't be laying down or have the skills to fight back and negate your power or best asset).

    A lousy no-talent can KO dozens in a row if he fights the right opponents.

    A far less than extraordinary talent can even go undefeated if his management cherry picks, controls the promotion, and only fights when the conditions are optimal.


    Tye Fields has 44 KOs.

    A vast number of KOs and the highest KO % on most EVERY fighter's record are encompassed within the first twenty stiffs, nobodies, has-beens, and never-weres ....

    You are who you fight ....

    Little else is relevant
     
  15. N_ N___

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    1. He knocked Chris Johnson out cold and he left the ring on a stretcher. Ended his career. He was a decent fighter (beat Echols) with a solid amateur background.
    2. Knocked out undefeated Lincoln Carter. Career over.
    3. Dropped Griffin twice.
    4. Only guy stop Harding. Ended his time as a serious contender.
    5. Destroyed Jones' career
    6. First to stop Green
    7. First to stop banks