Kovalev will look like a zombie in the ring against Canelo

HerolGee · Nov 2, 2019

good time to look a zombie on day of the dead!!

deyell · Nov 2, 2019

MrFoFody said: ↑

I'm backing Kovalev with cash, not panty twisting excuses
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I put money on Kovalev as well. But when I saw that Kovalev couldn't make weight first, and I heard about the rehydration clause, I cancelled the bet.

minemax · Nov 2, 2019

iamtheman said: ↑

i'm here wondering what he weighed for Yarde because the only info i can find is 189lbs back in 2015 against pascal. if he's usually around the high 180s, 185lbs in the clause several hours before the bout isn't a huge ask.
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Yeah, it could be we're overreacting. It didn’t take Kovalev hours to make weight (after the first failed attempts) and 10 pounds of the rehydration clause is maybe a nuisance but shouldn’t be a huge problem for Kovalev who’s not a fan of losing/gaining a lot of weight.

MrFoFody · Nov 2, 2019

deyell said: ↑

I put money on Kovalev as well. But when I saw that Kovalev couldn't make weight first, and I heard about the rehydration clause, I cancelled the bet.
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I would be worried If he had to lose a lot of weight but it was only 1/4 lb

941Jeremy · Nov 2, 2019

kdyehs said: ↑

What I mean by 3 months is he fought in August and then in November. But the time between the two fights is exactly the same as a summer break. And for an active fighter like Kovalev who been fighting because it is his job, it is all he needs. I will not mention the classic time of boxing when professionals were fighting multiple times a month. Also, Kovalev did not suffer a knockdown and although he had problems against Yarde he was clinically OK after the fight. He was looking fresh and ready during the weight in yesterday.
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Insane. It probably took a full 3 weeks for him just not to be sore anymore. And 6 weeks to prepare while still fulfilling press tour obligations is not ideal at all. The rehydration clause is the icing on the cake. The cards are stacked against Kovalev big time I expect to see him winded by the 6th round. If he's not completely gassed by then I will be 100% shocked, he's in for a long night he's operating on half a tank.

Ph33rknot · Nov 2, 2019

deyell said: ↑

Ruiz wasn't 36 years old and he wasn't weakened with a rehydration clause. Whole different story.
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He can actually rehydrate exactly 10#

bruce_keyes · Nov 2, 2019

PIPO23 said: ↑

Basically Kovalev has one leg in retirement and is just boosting up his retirement funds. Try as he may but he is on his last legs. Even with the advantages he has in weight and height. He wont be able to use or maximize them because of his advanced age and wear and tare etc.
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OK, so make a list of the injuries and wear that Kovalev has? I'll wait. meanwhile, Canelo has been a pro since he was 15 (Kovalev since 26).. Canelo has had surgeries on his knees, wears knee braces in his last 3 fights, broken his hand, ankle, has his shoulders always taped up (who knows what other injuries he's hiding) ... So who really has more wear?

don owens · Nov 2, 2019

Think the effects of several things may show up in the fight tonight. Kovalev is 36 (?), lost a couple times, had couple fights this year. the wear and tear combined with the age will have to show. Combined with this and the small amount of training camp time. He might not look too well......right up until he rams his fist down ginger's mouths and knocks him TFO.

C.J. · Nov 2, 2019

George Crowcroft said: ↑

Can somebody explain to me why anyone would back a cheater like Canelo?
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I certainly don't back him. I hope Sergey has the night of his his life & kicks the Ginger cheaters ass. Have you ever seen Fishnets & Ginger be honest about anything?? I havent. Ive said this about them all along & got attacked for it. Now people are seeing I was right. They seem to do exactly what they want & Bob Bennett & the NSAC sit back & let them do it. Then cover their asses if anyone complains
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAR KOVALEV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

puncherschance · Nov 2, 2019

I don't know why kovalev fans have so little faith in their boy?

Canelo has never fought at 175 and will not have ko power or be able to take kovalevs power.

The more I think about the more I think canelo is biting off way more than he can chew.

Kovalev will have a massive height, reach, size and power advantage and should be able to walk right through canelos punches which will be like swatting a fly away.

Rooting for canelo but will not be surprised if he gets destroyed tonight.

C.J. · Nov 2, 2019

puncherschance said: ↑

Advanced age my ass look at Mayweather fighting till well past 36 and still in stellar shape. If kovalev wasn't such a boozer maybe you wouldn't be so worried about his health.
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When did Floyd last FIGHT !!! in a competitive fight??? Against Maidana in fight 1 & he failed to fight but got his ass kicked Vegas corruption saved his ass

Angler Andrew · Nov 2, 2019

Serge said: ↑

Frank Lotierzo

'When the light-heavyweight title fight between WBO champion Sergey Kovalev 34-3-1 (29) and unified middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez 51-1-2 (34) was announced, two thoughts immediately stood out. The first is that this won’t be a mismatch like the welterweight title fight between WBC lightweight champion Mikey Garcia (who jumped up two divisions) and IBF welterweight champion Errol Spence. And the second is that Kovalev‒Alvarez looks unmistakably like “Mayweather matchmaking.” That is, Alvarez is fighting a dangerous opponent at the most opportune time, as with Mayweather‒Mosley (Mosley was a threat previously, but was in significant decline at the time of the fight).

What’s more, Alvarez asked for the fight and he did so without a catchweight stipulation. Kovalev didn’t seek him out, but couldn’t turn down the biggest purse of his career. And this lottery fight is coming at a time when it’s been reported that Kovalev really likes his beer; isn’t crazy about training; may need the money for some upcoming legal entanglements; and, most of all, has been stopped by two different opponents since decisioning Bernard Hopkins in 2014.

And if all that isn’t enough, why is Kovalev (depending on the book) between a 3-1 or 4-1 underdog? That says that Kovalev is vulnerable because if it wasn’t a Mayweather-type gimme they wouldn’t be fighting. And is there a sophisticated boxing fan on earth who believes Kovalev can win a decision if the fight is remotely competitive? Concerning the business side of things, here’s something else to consider: If Alvarez wins conclusively he’ll be considered “Fighter of the Decade.” Think of the money involved in that. And in two years when Artur Beterbiev is the same age as Kovalev (thirty-six), Alvarez will be ready to push him off the cliff, which he’s likely to do to Kovalev. And with that said—and by contrasting what Mikey Garcia faced against Errol Spence—here’s why the style matchup actually works for Alvarez.

To start, and with the exception of the Golovkin rematch, Alvarez is at his best when his opponent carries the fight to him (which Kovalev will do) and Alvarez is countering and cutting loose with a perfect mix of shots to the head and body—and the perception of Kovalev is that he especially doesn’t like to get hit downstairs. Yes, Kovalev has a great jab and he’ll double it up; but, over the last two or three years, Alvarez has developed good upper-body and head movement and can ride or roll when jabs are sent his way. If Alvarez can get Kovalev to lunge or reach, moreover, Alvarez can engage him on the inside This favors Alvarez because Kovalev is not a strong in-fighter and is usually at his best from a distance or at mid-range. In addition, for Kovalev to deliver his big right-hand power he must establish his jab; but if he is getting countered he’ll become a little more cautious with it and leave holes for Alvarez to fill with his faster hands and more explosive combinations.

Aside from being a bigger man and a harder (but not more effective) puncher, the older Kovalev isn’t clearly better than Alvarez in any respect. And that’s often the case when a lighter fighter moves up in weight—and the gulf becomes even wider when the lighter fighter is peaking and the older, bigger man is declining. The issue the smaller fighter often has is what happens when the bigger fighter lands a hard shot? Amir Khan was boxing Alvarez’s ears off but his chin couldn’t withstand the impact of Alvarez’s Sunday best and their fight ended with one punch.

Also, think about why James Toney was so successful moving up from middleweight to heavyweight. As a middleweight, Toney, as gifted as he was, had some struggles at 160 and 175 pounds. In his signature fight at 160 versus Michael Nunn, he was being completely out-thought and out-fought by Nunn, but landed a lottery-type shot and ended the fight. In reality, Toney looked his best at cruiserweight and heavyweight where his speed and skills were pronounced. And because of his cast-iron chin, he was never erased or seldom shook with a single bomb delivered by the men he fought between 195 and 250 pounds. Yes, his boxing skill won those fights but his great chin helped him to stay upright so he could be around to out-box Vassiliy Jirov and hang with John Ruiz, Samuel Peter, and Hasim Rahman.

In many ways the same applies to Alvarez fighting Kovalev. No one would ever dispute that Alvarez is smarter, quicker, harder to hit, and more well-rounded than Kovalev. In fact, all he has to worry about is getting careless or caught by the pressing Kovalev. And that’s where his superior chin will come into play. And keep in mind that this isn’t the same Kovalev who fought Hopkins or the confident Kovalev who fought Andre Ward the first time. The Kovalev who will confront Alvarez no longer believes he can’t be defeated or knocked out. And you can’t help thinking that if Kovalev lands a finishing punch and Alvarez answers back like he did in both fights against Golovkin, Kovalev will start doubting himself with each passing exchange and round. Once that happens—and if it does—Alvarez will sense it and feed off of it. And like Golovkin, Kovalev looks to ride out the storm and waits to reload when he’s being attacked.

With all that said, we’ve seen both Alvarez and Kovalev tire. And if that happens it could be a biggeer issue for Kovalev because we’ve seen his chin fail before. And when you add that Alvarez is a more accurate puncher than either Golovkin or Ward, if Kovalev gets winded or shook Alvarez will jump on him and perhaps force the referee to stop it. Punching accuracy makes up for what some might consider Alvarez’s shortage of brute power. It’s the clean shots that fighters don’t see that hurt them more than a lone haymaker. And Alvarez will be landing cleaner shots once the fight progresses and his chin and confidence have held up. And last, the two fights and twenty-four rounds that Alvarez spent in the trenches with Golovkin have surely hardened him and he’ll no doubt draw from that experience. In his mind he must think he’s already defeated a better technician and more resolute fighter in Golovkin than he’ll see in Kovalev.

If you’ve been around for boxing for years and know the sport well, the Mayweather stench of this fight overwhelms your boxing aptitude. This fight is happening because those on the inside believe the timing and opponent is right. If this were Kovalev between 2014 and 2016, Alvarez wouldn’t be fighting him. In addition to that, it’s doubtful Kovalev can win a decision and it’s not clear that he can stop Alvarez.

So how can Alvarez be a nearly 4-1 favorite? With those odds the initial thought must be to make a play on Kovalev and the public is usually wrong. Sure, Kovalev is a dangerous fighter but this is a well-thought-out and calculated risk for Team Alvarez. Boxing is star-driven and Alvarez is best suited to become this era’s Mayweather, and the Mayweather template is definitely in play here and, for that reason, Alvarez will win by a somewhat-contested decision or a late-round stoppage after, say, the tenth round.'
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Very well put Serge.This isn’t Krusher anymore is it?Hes mentioned this in interviews about changing his style to boxing and wether this was just his English I don’t know but he was talking about not going for the knockout anymore and winning on points.
Felt so bad for Kovalev as I did Golovkin in that after the first Ward fight he said I came here to show everyone I can box and this is what they do to me.Kovalev knockouts were pretty much a given and yet Yarde aside we’ve not seen any in a while.
Lol this is how much folk don’t trust Canelne guy made a comment on Counter punch boxing yesterday about Kovalevs charges being dropped after his loss to Canelo?Ok so that’s real tinfoil hat territory but you see why folk don’t feel they can trust Canelo and Oscar anymore.
Folk were thinking well of this until yesterday’s weight stipulation came out.

deyell · Nov 2, 2019

Sadly the fight played out exactly how I projected in this thread. Kovalev had no stamina, strength, power and punch resistance due to the combination of his age, short preparation time and rehydration clause. He got totally spent from the 8th round even though the pace was slow, he mostly threw jabs and barely got punched hard, yet he still gassed and got knocked out by a middleweight who isn't even a big puncher.

Canelo "Scavenger" Alvarez once again feasted on a shot old fighter using his A side advantages.

941Jeremy · Nov 3, 2019

Kovalev looked like sh*t how shocking. Who would have ever thought that having a 2 month turnaround between fights and being bound by a rehydration clause be so hindering.

Reinhardt · Nov 3, 2019

deyell said: ↑

Sadly the fight played out exactly how I projected in this thread. Kovalev had no stamina, strength, power and punch resistance due to the combination of his age, short preparation time and rehydration clause. He got totally spent from the 8th round even though the pace was slow, he mostly threw jabs and barely got punched hard, yet he still gassed and got knocked out by a middleweight who isn't even a big puncher.

Canelo "Scavenger" Alvarez once again feasted on a shot old fighter using his A side advantages.
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Let me congratulate you on a perfect prediction, not often you see one as spot on. I thought it might be 50/50 if Kovalev had one more effort in him but last night I watched Kov's fights with Hopkins and the first Ward fight and Compared those with Kovalev's last 2 fights. The eye test confirmed Kov was ready to be pushed off the cliff. I thought he looked seriously weak . It was , a cash out fight

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