Krzysztof Wlodarczyk vs. Francisco Palacios RBR

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  1. mlody841

    mlody841 New Member Full Member

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    Robinson fight was close but Włodarczyk deserved his victory.
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    I don't follow Krzysztof closly because I don't like him as person, he seems a complete *******, I don't like his boxing. He is for sure one of the weekest and most boring champions in boxing at the moment. So I don't remember all of his fights. Cuuningham I was very controversial, Palacios was a robbery. I remember one more figt, long time ago against a journeyman Karanewich, Diablo had huge problems, and he should loose it. Two polish judges 100-93 both, for Włodarczyk, one foreign 96-94 for his opponent.

    Yesterday Diablo faught, like he knew that it's enough to survive 12 rounds to win. It was one of the most disgracefull fights I have ever seen. Feel really sorry for Palacios.

    Now we will have "super six tournament". Polish cheaters against German from Sauerland.
     
  2. KillerDeluxe

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    Wlodarczyk won the first Cunningham fight. Wlodarczyk lost the second Cunningham fight. Both were clear / good decisions. In the first fight the American judge had a riddiculous score of something like 119-109 or something. That was a disgracefull scorecard. Wlodarczyk landed way more in that fight, whilst Cunningham tried to hug his way to victory. Wlodarczyk beat Robinson 9-3, comfortably. Wlodarczyk got a gift vs. Palacios.
     
  3. chinachin

    chinachin Active Member Full Member

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    Palacios got robbed, same way Lebedev was.
     
  4. KillerDeluxe

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    Oh please, as if the Germans aren't cheaters. Lebedev got robbed vs. Huckic. Just like Palacios got robbed vs. Wlodarczyk.

    BKP is the same as Sauerland. BKP has Wlodarczyk and Sauerland has Huck. Both promotions are dirtbags who are nothing but money grubbing malaria. Lebedev and Palacios should be champions right now, not these 2 idiots. But the fact that Lebedev and Palacios don't have a money grubbing promoter and just the will and heart in the ring, thats clearly not enough. Boxing isn't a sport, its politics.
     
  5. mlody841

    mlody841 New Member Full Member

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    I wanted to write Polish cheaters against German cheaters. Misunderstanding, we both think the same.
     
  6. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This sums it up very nicely, the peculiarity of my own scorecard notwithstanding.
     
  7. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Palacios is promoted by Don King, thats what polish commentators said during the fight. Maybe Don King hadnt invested enough money in Palacios? Probably BKP had invested much more in Diablo. When you invest money in the business, you want it to be profitable. The more you invest, the more you want/expect back. And sometimes you have to invest more money to keep the business workable. :smoke
     
  8. val

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    In my eyes he also lost to Imamu Mayfield.
     
  9. gregy741

    gregy741 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hi everyone...just to add something to this"robbery" paranoia.just saw a whole fight several times and dont get what is this fuss about.Palacios was running away all night throwing punches at KW gloves.judges DO NOT score a punch at gloves.
    look at the first round where everybody here gives clearly to Palacios....there were not a single punch from palacios that didnt end up at Wlodarczyk gloves....not a single one...what to give a belt to him for?this is not a dancing contest
    besides my first post...i couldnt resist
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The thing is, Palacios at least let his hands go. In round 1, as in several other rounds he was hitting Diablo's gloves but was the only person punching.

    Besides, a lot of those slapping shots can still score even if they're partially blocked. If any part of Palacios' gloves touches any part of a legal scoring area on Wlodarczyk, it counts as connecting. Of course, more telling/damaging blows should always take scoring precedence over those little slaps Palacios was dishing out (especially when they're partly blocked) but Wlodarczyk wasn't landing any blows, let alone more damaging/telling ones.

    It's BS that the "challenger needs to take the belt from the champion". Absolute BS. Title bouts are boxing matches just like any other ones. The same rules always apply. The champion needs to put in effort to retain his belt every bit as much as the challenger has to work to take it. The fights should be scored on a round by round basis using the 10 point must system favoring clean effective punching. Palacois' punching wasn't effective, nor was it particularly clean...but Wlodarczyk wasn't punching at all. If he'd landed a few really counters it would be a different story...but he didn't. He'd toss out a right hand and have it slapped away (not even partially connecting) and the Poles in the crowd would go wild...but he just wasn't landing anything, and throwing next to nothing.

    I understand not liking the style Palacios used, and he did make it into more of a dancing contest than a boxing match...but unfortunately Wlodarczyk simply didn't do anything to turn it back into a fight.

    Welcome to the board, btw... (although you joined almost a whole year before making your first post :blood)
     
  11. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I made my account months before I made my first post, that's what happens when I forget the password I used to make it.
     
  12. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fight posted yet? I figured this would close. Good style matchup for Palacios.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It was a good style match-up for Palacios...and it wasn't close at all, really. :yep (Had Diablo gone balls-out like he was expected to, it might have been).

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    (actual opening bell is in Part 2)
     
  14. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have it 116-112 Palacios

    FP KW

    9 10
    10 9
    10 9
    10 9
    10 9
    9 10
    10 9
    9 10
    9 10
    10 9
    10 9
    10 9

    116 112

    You can't really fault Palacios. His first huge step up in hostile territory for a world title against a stronger fighter. He employed the proper strategy, crowd-pleasing or not.

    Any lateral movement at all immobilizes Wlod. He does not know how to close the gap or come in behind the jab at all. Strong kid, but he really isn't championship timbre at this point. Palacios didn't look like a top ten p4p, but he earned that belt.