Krzysztof Wlodarczyk vs. Pavel Melkomyan

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Does that fact alone indicate that Krzysztof himself knew that Pavel was his boogeyman and that it wasn't just a case of being underprepared or taking him lightly? :think
     
  2. IntentionalButt

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    Post your scorecard.
     
  3. David HEY!!!

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    On scorecards Wlod was losing. However at no point did the ref rule an accidental headbutt. Pavel's corner told the ref thats what happened and thats when he ended the fight. Fight got stopped as Wlod was starting to come on and bust up Pavel.

    Wlod giving up rounds early is his forte.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Fair enough about the butt. The ref can deem the source of a cut any time at his discretion, though, can't he?

    Can you isolate the single punch from Wlod that caused it and rule out it having been a butt?

    Also - yes, he's slow-starting and coming on strong in the 2nd half is his forte. Getting the starch knocked outta him and beaten out like a dusty old rug in the first third of fights, however, was NEVER his forte... This wasn't just a case of getting the gears warmed up. Melk was fairly dominant through four, in a way you hardly ever see even in world class opponent for Wlod.
     
  5. damian38

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    I don't think so, Wlod probably wanted to recover (mostly mentally, as his mental attitude towards fights has always been his weakness), and as Pavel had gone totally downhill and soon retired, a rematch would most likely have done nothing other than even up that stain on his record :yep
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    Yeah but there was a little gap of a couple of years after Wlod could have rebuilt his confidence but still before Melk's decline.

    A short window, I guess. Just frustrating it didn't happen to give us some closure.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

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    Plus, you have Klitschko vs. Brewster II - where obviously Wlad didn't give a damn how faded & irrelevant Brewster was by that point, he wanted to avenge the loss at whatever cost. :yep

    I mean, FFS, even a somewhat embarrassing win over Palacios made Diablo feel obligated to set the record straight in a rematch. He strikes you as the kind of guy that would feel the burning need to avenge the loss.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Interview with Krzysztof in August of 2003:

    http://sport.wp.pl/kat,1878,title,W...-boi,wid,1363552,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=1150be

    Essentially the pertinent facts are


    1. He went in with a left elbow injury, and had surgery on it afterwards.
    2. After rehabbing the shoulder, there were plans for a Wlodarczyk vs. Melkomyan II in November of 2003. Obviously that never materialized for whatever reason, but Wlodarczyk did want it and was confident of victory.
    3. Doctors had told Wlodarczyk that if he waited even six months to have surgery his career would have been over.
    4. He deeply resented having the black mark on his record and felt that by the end of their contest, Melkomyan was afraid of him.
     
  9. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    IB,

    Do you have any mail on the Abdoul-Wlodarczyk fight?

    I remember a few years back I was looking for footage because I interested to see the circumstances leading to stoppage. Obviously the only time Abdoul has been stopped and he has been in with high quality fighters and some very big punchers.
    All I came up with is that it appears it was a very tight fight heading into the last round with some suggesting Abdoul may have been ahead. There was some inference from would I could gather that it might have been gift stoppage if you will..though it might have been some poor translation on whatever translator I used at the time.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Hey man - weird coincidence, I was actually marveling over Abdoul's record last night just looking at how many names he was in with and having only ever been stopped by Włodarczyk.

    My understanding of the situation is that it would have ended up a draw or narrow for Włodarczyk by one point...and that it may have looked a little quick but could have resulted in a very brutal knockout had the ref not stopped it.
     
  11. caspa

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    Two judges, from Italy and Belgium, had the fight dead even before 12th round. One judge - from Poland - had Abdoul two points ahead. So still, even if he had made it to the final bell, he would not win this. From what I remember it was a correct stoppage, it would've been brutal KO if the referee didn't step in.
     
  12. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cheers guys.

    Hopefully footage of the fight turns up on the interwebz one day.