Kubrat Pulev v.s Tyson Fury/Dereck Chisora loser

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cunningham is C level at HW yes. What HWs did Cunningham beat? None. Huck is **** and unrated at HW.

    Abell had Pulev in trouble? Haha You didn't see the fight you clown. This was a one-sided beatdown, Abell landed jack**** and went down twice from Pulev's bodyshots. Fury actually took huge hands from Abell and was pummeled into the ropes. That should NEVER happen.

    Fury looked vulnerable vs. Abell, Pulev looked dominant. That's what a top 5 boxer does with a top 50 journeyman. He dominates. Fury takes a top 50 journeyman, takes huge punches from them, allows them to nick rounds from them, allows them on the inside :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  2. CupidStunt

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    Yes he did :yep

    [YT]watch?v=hI9SQaQc6kQ[/YT]

    50 seconds in
     
  3. kovalevtheGoat

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    Legit KD :thumbsup
     
  4. CupidStunt

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    'Huck is ****' yet Povetkin needed a gift to beat him. Do you also think Povetkin is ****?

    Cunningham just beat Mansour who I would tip to beat Pulev
     
  5. jokers

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    i like your comments,very realistic...not only about our Pulev!Just very realistic:cool:
     
  6. Castertroy

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    He use it all the time but he dominated kevin Johnson with his reach advantage the whole fight. Fury has a poor work rate? You really haven't a clue what your talking about.
     
  7. jokers

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    Povetkin after Wlad is the best HW fighter,what do you think?:good
     
  8. kovalevtheGoat

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    Povetkin got a lucky decision vs Huck, but madhatter wouldnt call povetkin ****. Because despite having trouble with a cruiserweight he is a top 5 heavyweight. But having troublesome fights is part of boxing, since the huck fight and the loss against wlad, povetkin has looked supreme and devasting.

    Also Fury's Beatdown of joey abell was more impressive than Pulevs, and he showed 10 times of speed and fluidity, compared to wash and rinse and repeat Kubrat Pulev, who hasnt shown any sort of combo punching or handspeed at all, nor does he have much punch variety compared to fury. :deal
     
  9. madballster

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    No, Povetkin is a very good boxer who showed up at his absolute worst and still beat Huck. Huck is crude, low ring IQ, a loudmouth with zero defense. Don't confuse the entertainment factor for actual boxing skill.

    Fury would beat Huck. You know why? Because Huck is just as dumb as Fury. Crude fighter with low ring IQ vs. crude fighter with low ring IQ. I take Furys weight and reach to win in an ugly war.
     
  10. madballster

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    Let me tell you about "troublesome fights".

    * Fury is taking flush punches against overmatched journeyman Abell. Not one, but like five. Fury lets Abell get into the infight and command the tempo for like 20-30 seconds at a time. This should *NEVER* happen. Never!
    * Look at how Pulev handled Abell. He dominates him, he controls the tempo at all times. Pulev controls range, controls the exchanges. That's what a good boxer does with a journeyman!

    Now here's where Pulev showed he is good, but not elite: He didn't dominate B level guys like Thompson, Dimitrenko or Ustinov. He allowed Thompson to rattle him, he allowed Dimitrenko to nick 2-3 rounds with his jab. That should never happen if you want to be an elite HW.

    You see the difference between Fury and Pulev? Fury makes mistakes against journeymen, guys who are ranking in the 50-100 of the world. A guy like Pulev doesn't make Furys mistakes. However, he makes mistakes against guys in the top 5-15.

    Pulev is a level above Fury, plain and simple. Sorry if that pops your bubble but the facts are undisputable. Fury is young, maybe he can learn a trick or two over the next 7-8 years. But we're talking about right now :deal
     
  11. jokers

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    did you think that was a real knockdown,pls man .....
     
  12. kovalevtheGoat

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    Making Mistakes and not been punished for it yet :D Its very uninspiring to look bad against journeyman, But wait till the 29th when he faces chisora a top 15 heavyweight and then we will see.
    Also Ustinov and Dimintrenko are utterly terrible. Id have cunningham to beat the both of them. :deal
     
  13. madballster

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    Not sure how you have Cunningham beat them? Who has Cunningham beaten? I see nothing to indicate he'd win against Ustinov or Dimitrenko. Ustinov is a lousy boxer but has a decent beard and is heavy as ****. Dimitrenko has a ****py chin but he has a decent jab and workrate. Chambers stopped him but it took him a lot of work.

    Cunningham doesn't have anyone or anything his record indicating he's worth his salt at HW. Zilch.
     
  14. madballster

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    For me to rate Fury higher, I'd want to see the following: He dominates Chisora, neutralizes Chisoras style, doesn't take unnecessary punches from Chisora. Neutralizes his in-fighting game and throws a lot of jabs and uppercuts at him. Wins a clear UD 12 or maybe a late stoppage.

    If Fury can win this while losing 2 rounds max then he'd surprise me and I'd be willing to admit he improved greatly.

    If I am right about Fury however he will struggle mightilty against Chisora. He will allow Chisora to wobble him multiple times, he will allow Chisora to dominate the fight for some stretches of time. That shouldn't happen but Fury is dumb enough to allow it to happen. I'm picking Fury on points or late stoppage but he will not dominate because he lacks the skill to do so.
     
  15. kovalevtheGoat

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    Na but he has a better win they have, Amir Mansour. Unles u think david tua is still good :D
    Or dimitrenko best win sprott or i dont even know. :lol: