Kudos to Povetkin and the Heavyweight Division

Well let's see...your entire argument is that anyone who slates the division is "desperate for a black heavyweight champ" you have repeated it again on another thread. You repeatedly mention black, American fighters and imply that anyone who sees this pile of steaming excrement of a divison for what it is, must be hating because there are no black American champs.

You are clearly a white, European guy who has major issues about race or at the very least is ludicrously biased and no doubt of Eastern European heritage. So you project your own subjective mindset upon others and try to kid yourself that the likes of Valuev and Chagaev are better than Ali, Frazier, Tyson, Lewis, Marciano, Louis and Holmes etc.

As I said you are a farce.

 

Well that settles it then, you must be right. How much of the boxing game have you caught pre 2006? Perhaps if you had seen the last 30 or 40 years on tape rather than say the last 3 rounds of the most recent sham of a fight, you wouldn't keep spewing up your verbal faeces across the boards.

 

:deal

 

I think the threadstarter makes some valid points. The problem is when the argument is based on jingoism or ethnic pride the debate ceases to be based on logic and conflagrates into a shitstorm. There were two excellent heavyweights back in the early 1970's - namely Vitshotsky from the soviet union and Stevenson from cuba who were no doubt great fighters. Vitshotsky was an absolute animal who cut easily so he was held out of the 1972 olympic games. But he beat all the best american amateurs of that era as well as kayoing the great cuban Stevenson a couple of times. Both would have no doubt found success in the pros if they had been llowed to fight professionally. I am sure there were countless other potential stars that never got the chance to go pro. The american media is biased towards american athletes and that goes for boxing too which is a global sport. It is true that if Wlad was an american he would be lauded as the best fighter on the planet. He is the best fighter on the planet because he can beat any man in the world right now in a boxing match. Lennox Lewis also never got his props from the american sportswriters. It is a shame. I know what I am watching anyway and don't need the Kellermans, Merchants, Lampleys, etc. to tell me Klitschko is great. All you have to do is watch him in action.

 

That's more like wishful thinking on your part. He wouldn't.

 

Good post says it like it is fck the political correctness.
There's a lot of "Soviet Envy" here on ESB.

I admit the HW division is trash...in America that is. Here's my top ten of the next "Great American Hope" of any color...

1. Evander Holyfield (86 years old, had head used as speed bag by Ibragimov but I have nothing but admiration for him. At his age still willing to go at it has the knowledge but body is slowing down. He's still America's best HW)

2. Shannon Briggs (another victim of Ibragimov stood there like sand bag gasping for air. This is our second best chance at HW Champ atsch )

3. John Ruiz (Please...Realized or Realised or Realiced he's out of his league after getting schooled by Chagaev)

4. Tony Thompson (Except he gets decapitated by "Wlad the impaler" in three rnds or less)

5. Hasim Rahman (Just don't buy tickets in the front row! :nono )

6. Chris Byrd ( Battered bloody by Wlad the Impaler or as the Brits might say Bloody Battered. Better have Daddy ready to throw in the towel just in case)

7. Eddie Chambers (After done pissing blood he should go down to cruiserweight IMO)

8. Calvin Brock (Dropped like a rock by Wlad the Impaler. Bank account seems over-drawn)

9. George Foreman ( I might reconsider and rank him #2 :good )

10. Tye Fields (Does OK against that guy name TBA don't know how he do against someone with a name tho)

But wait! Don King did say Ray Austin would reign Hell on Klitschko maybe he should get a rematch? :thumbsup

The HW division is alive and well...in Russia! Problem is we need one Champion not four and it looks like it's going in that direction.
Wlad over Chagaev within' two years
We shall see
To be continued...