Léo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton II

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    N need for a rematch, nothing controversial about the first one. Frampton wins again, only it'll be easier the second time around.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Agreed, the rematch is as unnecessary as, say, Klitschko vs. Fury II - but there is nothing wrong or unusual about the former incumbent champ having a built-in second chance to redeem losing his title. Onoy difference is K2 were upfront about it and gave Team Fury a chance to consider and ultmately agree to including a rematch clause. Haymon sneaking one past Frampton in glyphic legalese is just hilariously shady. Dude is a gangster.
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 2, 2016
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Of course he is, he's the scum of the earth. But we're just "hatin":roll: Most promoters are scumbags, but he's raising the bar.
     
    CST80, Aug 2, 2016
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I disagree. The contest was like a slightly more competitive version of this morning's (Moonsuree vs. Juárez) in that LSC, much like his countryman Juárez, made literally every adjustment you could ever possibly imagine him making in a million years. The full extent of his abilities were on display; every different look within his power to give. Santa Cruz and Juárez tried Plan A, B, C, D, and E - and they weren't enough.
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 2, 2016
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  5. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another close fight, this time LSC gets the nod and we get a trilogy.
     
    ElCyclon, Aug 2, 2016
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  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    This time LSC gets the nod :huh ? It was a close fight, but the victor was clear. I still have to rewatch the fight, but just like Thurman/Porter the right man won, if LSC got the nod or Porter got the nod, it would have been a robbery to me.
     
    ellerbe, Aug 2, 2016
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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Really? Care to ****yze that statement?

    Rios vs Alvarado I Rios wins. Rios vs Alvarado II Alvarado wins. Rios vs Alvarado III Rios wins.

    Pacquiao vs Marquez I Draw. Pacquiao vs Marquez II Pacquiao wins. Pacquiao vs Marquez III Pacquiao wins. Pacquiao vs Marquez IV Marquez wins.

    Ali Frazier I Frazier wins. Ali Frazier II Ali wins. Ali Frazier III Ali wins.

    Marquez vs Vazquez I Vazquez wins. Marquez vs Vazquez II Marquez wins. Marquez vs Vazquez III Marquez wins. Marquez vs Vazquez III Vazquez wins.

    Jones vs Hopkins I Jones wins. Jones vs Hopkins II Hopkins wins.

    Morales vs Barrera I Morales wins. Morales vs Barrera II Barrera wins. Morales vs Barrera III Barrera wins.

    Morales vs Pacquiao I Morales wins. Morales vs Pacquiao II Pacquiao wins. Morales vs Pacquiao III Pacquiao wins.

    Jones vs Tarver I Jones wins. Jones vs Tarver II Tarver wins. Jones vs Tarver III Tarver wins.

    Duran vs Leonard I Duran wins. Duran vs Leonard II Leonard wins. Duran vs Leonard III Leonard wins.

    Leonard vs Hearns I Leonard wins. Leonard vs Hearns II Draw.

    Hagler vs Antuofermo I draw. Hagler vs Antuofermo I Hagler wins.

    Charles vs Walcott I Charles wins. Charles vs Walcott II Charles wins. Charles vs Walcott III Walcott wins. Charles vs Walcott IV Walcott wins.

    Ali vs Norton I Norton wins. Ali vs Norton II Ali wins. Ali vs Norton III Ali wins.

    Ali vs Spinks I Spinks wins. Ali vs Spinks II Ali wins.

    Zale vs Graziano I Zale wins. Zale vs Graziano II Graziano wins. Zale vs Graziano III Zale wins.

    Patterson vs Johansson I Johansson wins. Patterson vs Johansson II Patterson wins. Patterson vs Johansson III Patterson wins.

    Bowe vs Holyfield I Bowe wins. Bowe vs Holyfield II Holyfield wins. Bowe vs Holyvield III Bowe wins.

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    Lewis vs Rahman I Rahman wins. Lewis vs Rahman II Lewis wins.

    Klitschko vs Brewster I Brewster wins. Klitschko vs Brewster II Klitschko wins.

    Rematches are always flipping the original results. That's why the guy that wins the first one is usually not willing to grant a rematch in the first place. There's always the chance that the loser will adapt or change his game plan and win the next time.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    How, though? He tried everything he is capable of doing in a ring already. Frampton has a more dynamic game, is still going to be faster, and wasn't and won't be cowed by Léo's size or strength.
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 2, 2016
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  9. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I wonder if Frampton did his usual 15 week training camp again. He looked much better vs LSC than I thought he was going to. Maybe he toned it down.
     
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  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Frampton looked better at the new weight and as he stated he could of made it easier on himself which is what would happen second time round I'd guess?
     
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  11. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have a weird sense of logic. The fight was close in your opinion but giving the the nod to LSC would have been a robbery?

    In regards to the rematch, if it's another close fight, it's not a stretch to guess that the powers that be would make sure to nudge the scores in favor of LSC in order to get trilogy made(see MAB/Morales).
     
    ElCyclon, Aug 2, 2016
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  12. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As long as it happens soon,the Fury v Klitscko has dragged on for too long and folk have lost interest in it,even in July it was too late I reckon.
    Didn't Gatti and Ward fight three times in around a year or so?if it's gonna go to Belfast then let's get it on quick as both will end up being inactive because of it.
     
    Angler Andrew, Aug 2, 2016
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  13. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Since when does what actually happen in the ring have a true bearing on the judge's scorecards?

    In regards to the actual fight, what you wrote is probably the most likely scenario but there's also the possibility that LSC would be more successful if he pressures Frampton from round one til the end.

    IMO, Frampton fought the perfect fight and Leo made many mistakes(most of the credit for that goes to Frampton) which be might be able to correct in the rematch.
     
    ElCyclon, Aug 2, 2016
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  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    There are close fights that have clear decisions. This wasn't a fight that could have gone either way. If LSC got the nod it would have been a clear robbery.

    I'm not really surprised that you thought LSC could have won this though.
     
    ellerbe, Aug 2, 2016
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  15. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree. Close fight but the right person won.

    I don't mind the rematch, think the Jackal repeats but it should be a good fight.
     
    KiwiMan, Aug 2, 2016
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