l. lewis vs primo carnera.....

Well...I have seen Carnera fight, more than once. He wasn't George Foreman, but I would say he hit harder than many of the heavyweight champions.

 

The Godfrey fight, the Baer fight, the Sharkey fight, the Louis fight, the Schaaf fight and the Impeletiere (?) fight; though whatever-his-name was about the same height, Carnera nevertheless didn't look like a "brilliant technician" or a "heavy-handed puncher" in that fight or in any of them. He had the sort of power I'd expect a world class heavyweight to have, ie. average.

 

The most popular fighters during the 20'and 30's in America were those of Jewish and Italian extraction.Your argument falls on this.

 

:verysad

Twas a joke.

 

Yes, but could he deliver a punch that was harder than some of the people that Lewis took direct shots from ie, Vitali Klitschko, Frank Bruno, Ray Mercer, Mike Tyson, etc? Could he hit harder than Oliver McCall or Hasim Rahman who spent their entire careers fighting full sized heavyweights, many of whom they did not have such a significant size advantage over? Frankly, I don't think that Carnera could replicate what those men did to Lewis ( one of them doing it when Lewis was 35 years of age. )

Also, did Carnera have the skill, speed, or staying power to last long enough and deliver before Lewis got to him?

Personally, I think Lewis vs Carnera is a horrible mismatch and for more reasons than I am even capable of listing.

 

I agree that Lewis would beat Carnera.

 

Carnera displayed no power in any of these fights except for the Sharkey ko which is highly dubious .So I am at a loss to how you arrived at this conclusion..Carnera never hurt Godfrey,Baer,or Louis,Louis commented on Carnera's lack of power "he had nothing".Schaaf went down from an innocuous left jab,he had recently been hospitalized with a serious case of influenza,and previously brutally kod by Max Baer after which he was unconscious for several minutes and had to be dragged to his corner.
Schaaf was damaged goods going into the fight with Carnera.
Over the hill Light Heavy Tommy Loughran, who couldnt punch because of damaged hands gave away 84lbs to Carnera and wobbled him twice.Carnera NEVER stung Loughran ONCE.
I can only conclude you are on a windup.

 

Name some of those you think Carnera hit harder than .

 

On the issue of Carnera's power I would say that it was good for a heavyweight but unexceptional for one the size of Lewis or Carnera.

This makes me think that Carnera pulling a Ramhan is unlikley even given ideal conditions.

Lewis would not try to outbox Carnera he would throw caution to the wind and go all out for the kill like he did against Michael Grant. At least I strongly suspect that is what he would do.

Carnera would put up a brave fight and his recuperative powers would likley allow him to last into the middlew rounds but eventualy the reff would close the deal after Carnera hit the canvas once too often.

 

I think Carnera was a decent puncher.

His knockout record was incredible (72 KO's in 89 wins) but it obviously doesn't tell the whole story. His opponents were often smaller and not very competent although he did have some nice wins on his record as well.

Carnera traditionally did better against bigger opponents but none of them were on the level of a Lennox Lewis, neither was Carnera. Lewis usually went right at fighters his size, using his size and power to blast them out, which he could very well succeed in against Primo.

Carnera had a ton of heart though and it would take an awful beating before he went down for the final time.

 

Off the top of my head, I can give you 10 quick linear heavyweight champions who didn't hit as hard as Carnera did...in my opinion. If I actually thought about it a while, I'm sure I could name more. I'm not talking about effective punching here...or ability to knock people out...just hard power punches when they connected cleanly.

Carnera hit harder than these linear heavyweight champions...
01. Muhammad Ali.
02. James J. Braddock.
03. James J. Corbett.
04. James Buster Douglas.
05. Marvin Hart.
06. Larry Holmes.
07. Jack Sharkey.
08. Leon Spinks.
09. Michael Spinks.
10. Jess Willard.

 

Does this count the dozens of fixed fights?

 

I have no way of knowing which fights were fixed and which weren't. If you can list them, I'll read the list. I only know that I have watched the man punch and it seemed to me that he could hit pretty hard...not as hard as most heavyweight champs but harder than many of them.

 

there's always a chance ofcourse. but i would favour lewis. i think his winchance is about 85 to 90% in this fight.

 

What evidence do you have that "dozens" of Carnera's fights were fixed.

It has been proven that one of his fights was fixed. Prety normal for a fighter of that era.