[LA Times, 1988] Hearns Rejects Offer to Fight Nunn : Arum Says Fighter Spurned $2 Million

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Did Hearns duck an up-and-coming Michael Nunn? How did he end up fighting Barkley instead?


    Hearns Rejects Offer to Fight Nunn : Arum Says Fighter Spurned $2 Million
    February 26, 1988|STEVE SPRINGER | Times Staff Writer

    Thomas Hearns, the World Boxing Council middleweight champion and the only man to win four world titles, has turned down a $2 million offer to fight unbeaten middleweight Michael Nunn, according to promoter Bob Arum.

    "After I made the offer," Arum said from his Las Vegas headquarters, "I was told that for no money would Thomas Hearns fight Michael Nunn. Tommy always has problems with left-handers."

    That, according to Hearns' camp, is not the problem.

    In Detroit, Prentiss Byrd, vice president of the management group that handles Hearns, said, "First of all, I never heard of it going up to $2 million. As far as I know, it was 1.5 million.

    "It doesn't matter. We want a fight with somebody that makes sense. A fight with Michael Nunn makes no sense. Bob Arum is playing kids' games with the press. He's trying to start a newspaper war for this fight with Nunn, but it's not going to happen. We are basically looking for two guys--Sugar Ray Leonard or Marvin Hagler. Michael Nunn is a good young fighter who is going to go a long way in this business. But what good would it do for us to fight him? Where would it get us?"

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    According to Arum, Leonard has begun talking about the possibility of a September rematch of his successful blockbuster battle with Hagler last April. Hagler, however, will not talk about any such possibilities until he clears up the marital problems that are now consuming him.

    "The fight that would make the most sense is Hearns-Leonard," Byrd said. "It would make much more money and be much bigger than Hagler-Leonard. But Leonard has played games his whole career and he's continuing to play them now. He's yellow. He doesn't want to fight us."

    But if Leonard fights Hagler, where does that leave Hearns?

    "It leaves him no place," Arum insisted. "He wants to fight nobodies for big money. Or you name somebody like (Mike) McCallum (scheduled to fight World Boxing Assn. champion Sumbu Kalambay next month), he wants $10 million. Or (Frank) Tate (International Boxing Federation champ)? Five million. Hearns is wacky."

    Countered Byrd: "Of course we want as much money as we can get. Thomas Hearns has been a fighter for 11 years, he's 29 and he wants to get as much as he can, the best situation for him. We are not going to say things just to be unreasonable. McCallum would be most attractive if we can't get the two guys we want.

    "We will fight anybody for the proper dollars. It's all about public demand, not because a fight would be good for a promoter or for the boxing fraternity. We want to get people who don't ordinarily go to a boxing match. We can't get that with Michael Nunn. We don't see any big interest in him. He would not create that kind of an event."

    Dan Goossen, Nunn's manager, added his own volley to the semantic slugfest.

    "I told Nunn," Goossen said of the Hearns rejection of his North Hollywood fighter, "that I expected it. Hearns has never been interested in fighting us. The reason? I feel he knows the results. Thomas Hearns wouldn't want to put everything on the line--his reputation and everything else--against some young, hot property like Nunn. I feel he's smart not fighting Nunn.

    "Hearns is the top middleweight champion today. If the top is reluctant to fight Nunn, we are not too thrilled about the prospect of anyone else standing in line."

    Nunn, 28-0 with 18 knockouts, and Hearns, 45-2 with 38 knockouts, fought on the same night last October in Las Vegas. Hearns knocked out Juan Roldan to win the WBC title that evening. Nunn stopped Darnell Knox to capture the North American Boxing Federation crown. Hearns has not fought since.

    Nunn, who easily beat Kevin Watts last month in Reseda, will return to Las Vegas on March 19 to defend his title against Doug DeWitt.

    Beyond that?

    Arum, who already has reportedly offered Tate more than $300,000 to fight Nunn, has reopened negotiations, hoping to put together a Tate-Nunn IBF title fight for June.

    Unless, of course, Hearns changes his opinion that no offer is better than Nunn.
     
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  2. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nunn was all wrong for anyone, no one would had an easy night against him, tall, southpaw, great jab, decent power, great footwork, movement, could fight on the inside, good body puncher and up to Kalambay he looked sensational, he was too much risk.
    Such a shame because maybe his career would have followed a different path if he would have fought an elite fighter after the Kalambay fight.
     
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  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, if he did, that certainly backfired. Iran laid him out.

    I think Nunn would have beaten him at the time, too but it would almost certainly have been a distance fight.
     
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  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He should still be in the IBHOF though. Same with Donald Curry.

    Inferior fighters (to them) like Gatti, McGuigan and Mancini have gotten in lately.
     
  5. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Barkley, Curry, Starling, Cokes, Roldan, Kalambay and even Tate, yeah, that's a really solid resume but it could have been so much better.
     
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  6. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I suspect him being in prison is causing issues....he should be in the ibhof... especially if Gatti got in
     
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  7. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My understanding (and somewhat speculative view on what happened) is that Leonard had, earlier that same month, hinted at coming out of retirement (again). He initially talked about a rematch with Hagler and Hagler only (feigning, it seemed, a lack of interest in re-matching Hearns). This, at the same time Hearns himself was trying to tempt Hagler out of retirement.

    But it became clear Hagler wasn't going to follow suit. So Hearns aimed for Leonard. Meanwhile, Arum was offering $1M to Hearns to fight anyone but this was apparently less than Hearns would take to fight [anyone]. In any event they were looking for bigger money and Nunn was not only a relative unknown, he was a high risk. Barkley, on the other hand, was not meant to present a high risk and was still a ranked opponent.

    So the Barkley disaster happened, then the look of Hearns' Middleweight fragility showed up again, against Kinchen and so, I suppose, that Leonard in the end realized that a Hearns rematch was the biggest money fight he was going to get. I don't know for sure if Leonard felt Hearns was worth another go, due to his seeming weakness at the higher weight but, either way, it appeared providence brought them together the following year.
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    Hearns got $11 million and like 30 percent of the gate for his rematch with Leonard. Nunn was just a contender when that article was printed.

    Hearns was looking for big purses.

    And, to be honest, I don't imagine Nunn would've had any better luck against Hearns than Virgil Hill did.

    Hearns could be sloppy when he took people less than seriously. I don't think he would've overlooked Nunn, and I think he would've outboxed Nunn over 12. (Like he did with Hill.)
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    People get money offers all the time. They can't take them all. It's not as if Nunn was a mandatory. In hindsight i would not have been suprised if Tommy knocked him out even at this stage.

    I reviewed Nunn again a while back and i think we've begun to overrate him somewhat.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I suspect losing to guys like Steve Little have more to do with it.

    Nunn was a solid champ. But he was only good for a brief period. He doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

    You can be a quality champ for a short period. And people can appreciate you. But that doesn't make you an alltime great.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Donald Curry doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Just because you think some unworthy people got in doesn't mean MORE unworthy people should get in, too.

    Again, you can be a top fighter for a short period, be respected and have a solid career. But that doesn't make you an all-time great. Curry doesn't have the wins. Keith Thurman has beaten better fighters at welterweight than Curry did. Thurman isn't a hall of famer, either.
     
  12. Jamal Perkins

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    Mr koolkevin great thread post.i love these kind of old at the time articles....ive got a ton of magaxines from the 1980s im gonna post similar stuff when i get round to it
     
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  13. richdanahuff

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    ATG status IBHOF? there are quite a few fighters who have done alot less in the sport than Nunn who were voted in......he was a 2 division champion with some decent defenses under his belt and started to fall flat at 168 going into 175.......do we know what is criteria for the IBHOF? from what I have seen it seems sort of arbitrary in which popularity is confused with greatness too often...otherwise I would agree the HOF should be reserved for the ATG's
     
  14. NoNeck

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    They weren't criminals.
     
  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And there are a lot who have done more than Nunn who aren’t in ... why do people default to the lowest denominator? Why not to the highest standard? Let’s get all the most deserving people in and then worry about the ones who have less impressive resumes.

    If you use fighters like Gatti (I personally think there’s room in the HoF for a category for great rivalries where Gatti-Ward and some others could be recognized without guys like Gatti actually becoming pure Hall of Famers, but I digress) while at the same time arguing they shouldn’t be in, then saying “This guy should be in if they are” makes no sense if you don’t think “they” — the Gatti and Mancini types — belong.
     
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