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:good great read thanks

 

Great thread !!! Once scrap, PK and von get going I'm like :admin

Very interesting reading guys thank you

 

PK, thanks for the article and specifically the video. This is an awesome post.

The person on the video is so accurate with his view of the medical profession. Most of them virtually know nothing about homeopathic treatments, vitamins/minerals, and so forth. I know, I work very closely with MDs in my profession.

As far as training twice daily, if programmed properly, an athlete can be in the best shape of their life for peaking(this is the key word)for an event. However, I agree completely with your comment that boxers are chronically fatigued, and want to make very clear that while intense training may be necessary to compete at a top level, it has long term ramifications.
Under NO circumstances should anyone train twice daily longer than 6-8 weeks, and only a few days a week. It would be awful for anyone to train this way for any length of time and would lead to all types of burnout or fatigue as you say. I would be happy to post what I think this programming would look like, and folks can tell me what they think, pros and cons(that's what makes this stuff fun). I still believe only 3 hard sessions per week is necessary.

As for what Scrap was talking about, he is spot on. It is cringeworthy to see what they are doing to these kids. I see it with wrestlers, which is a popular sport in the states. In addition, some of them are close to developing eating disorders, but that's another topic.

 

This has been the best topic that I have seen on here in a long time.

Great info!

 

Agree with this. Training twice per day is fine as long as it's programmed properly. Unfortunately that's rarely the case with a lot of young amateur boxers that I've interacted with; I've literally spoken to people who will run every day, twice on the days that they aren't boxing training.

Again, spot on. Seeing kids going on severe calorie restricted diets to try and maintain a weight that they simply can't maintain whilst remaining healthy is far too common. I was going to start a thread earlier actually about the physiology requirements of amateur boxing coaches in the UK, because some of the protocols that I've known coaches to have their boxers on is just horrendous.

 

Ok, how about SRR and BHop, I think these guys were training 24/7.
SRR: "I have been to training camps 10-11 months per year".

Mayweather and Pac have insane work-ethic. Mayweather, by his words and his cook, eats everythings: from burgers / sweets to healthy food. Since he constantly trains, his metabolism digests anything.

 

That makes no sense. Your body recognises the nutrients contained within a food, it doesn't recognise the names of foods, ofcourse he is going to digest the foods that you mentioned.

 

when fighters say they train 24/7 I don't think you should take it so literally. it's more of a way to say there training is ongoing, and consistent. they ARE taking rest days, you can bet on that. also they are not training as hard as they would a few weeks out from a fight every single day of there life. there is an individual balance that each fighter comes to achieve.

 

Absolutely correct.

 

Yeah, I heard an interview with B Hop who says when not "in camp" does a lot of swimming. I believe in athletes keeping in shape year round, that's important, but if I were a pro boxer I would train moderate intensity, 1 x daily, maybe 4 days a week.

 

I can't believe anyone doesn't do at least 2-3 workouts a week. I'd be so bored if I did nothing.

 

I agree. I understand taking a few weeks to a month off after a major fight or a ring war, but I remember my old boxing trainer talking about how a top pro he worked with indirectly would come into camp starting basically at ground zero due to complete inactivity. However, he was known to have a poor work ethic.

 

It doesn't help that a lot of boxers will binge after a fight. When you've been in a caloric deficit for so long (as most boxers are in camp) and then just go back to eating "normally", you're going to gain a pretty significant amount of fat, sometimes a hell of a lot. The most efficient way is to reverse diet, slowly upping calories over a period of time. Being reckless just means that the next time you go into camp, a large emphasis is on making weight again.

 

Good point. Remember Duran after his first Leonard fight. Of course, that is a bit of a more extreme example.

 

That video is one of the biggest loads of **** I've ever seen. It's because of people like him that naturopaths and homeopaths are seen as quacks. A lack of selenium is the cause for all Cardiomyopathy?
Athletes don't live long lives and they look old because once they finish their careers they usually cease all exercise and let themselves go. After all the dedication over the years they're done. If you watched that video and believed it you wouldn't do any exercise. Nothing in the world prevents disease and death like physical activity does.