Lamont Peterson - A disgrace to the sport

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nope....

    There's a clear and genuine gripe in my post, which i don't believe i can make clearer, about the double standards some members on here have.

    Peterson quitting with no injury is 'brave' but Brook quitting with a life threatening injury shows 'no heart'.
     
  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he was making a point about people being critical about one fighter but giving another fighter a pass for the same thing. Being critical of posters on this forum rather than of the fighters themselves.
     
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  3. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lamont didn’t quit....his corner made the call. Rigo told his corner he couldn’t continue because of a slightly bruised hand. Completely different scenarios
     
  4. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    What bothered me the most about the way the fight was stopped last night is it struck me as a bit of a con. Peterson had put up a decent fight to that point so he knew he couldn't be called a coward but he was not seriously hurt and could definitely have gone on. What this showed me is that Peterson is no longer competing to be the best, but instead competing for a paycheck.
     
  5. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Some one who sees the wood through the trees ;)
     
  6. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I see your point, however, might I suggest that you personalize the delivery to that subset of folks that actually labeled Kell as a quitter.

    What we witnessed last night was a man naturally and mentally hard as stone witness his humanity in gradual depreciating stages take place in a small pocket of time. The psychological impact of that goes well beyond being out worked, out skilled, overpowered or clocked cold. A quitter has visualized and calculated his options and comes to a clear and concise decision to throw in the towel that wasn’t the case last night. Lamont’s most inherent instincts started to become complicated conundrums simply because he was that unaware of the life changing event unfolding before him so rapidly.

    It was an extraordinarily difficult event to see. The awkward yet compassionate interaction between Lamont and his trainer right before the inevitable end was something that could only take place in abstract thought.....real life is so much more intresting than anything written for the movies. Fact
     
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  7. The Professor

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    Not at all. Some of the clowns who post on this site are a disgrace to this sport however.
     
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  8. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Oh he certainly was mentally and physically prepared to walk through the gates of hell and back. I believe where I lose touch with the thread starter is more focused on the ultimate reasoning behind the stoppage. It went beyond tangible logic it was an existential event in Lamont’s personal life story. If Peterson had a temple of self actualization in his home it’s been structurally damaged but not completely compromised.
     
  9. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    is it just me or are more and more fighters quitting too easily nowadays?
     
  10. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The comparisons between Lamont and Brook to their respective trainers is near identical though.

    Both were only young kids when Hunter/Ingle took them under their wings and established them as world level boxers....So it's no surprise to see just how close they are.


    The issue for me comes with the following.....

    One is labelled a quitter after suffering two life threatening injuries.

    One is labelled 'brave' and a 'warrior' after essentially allowing his trainer to pull him out because he was losing every round and being outclassed.....despite suffering no injuries other than bruising.


    Brook was never outclassed by GGG and Spence to the extent where they drove him to want to quit....but for the injuries, there's no way he would have quit either as he was very competitive.
     
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  11. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    While I realize creating stratifications for both submissions Brook and Lamont where subdued in different manners. Again I have to stress the fact that the double standard generalizations shouldn’t apply to everyone and by the looks of your post above you concur. Still I don’t see how this justifies the thread starters total disdain for Lamont’s corners actions.
     
  12. OpinionOfACasual

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    Your final sentence proves that you still don't understand the context of this thread.

    Brook, more specifically his corner, were bashed for pulling Brook out against GGG.

    Lamont accepted his Trainer's decsion.....almost to the extent he was looking for it - labelled a 'warrior'.

    Brook's corner threw in the towel vs GGG, against Brook's wishes - Brook labelled a 'quitter'.
     
  13. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    I think he scrying to not knock Lamont in anyway
    Just asking in the same breath how one can be judge one way and the other well the opposite way
    When except for serious injury as he as already stated are from similar back grounds as fighters minus the homelessness bit
    Basically asking for a justifiable answer and if held in the same light there isn't one
     
  14. Caper

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    Now you’re missing my point, nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. There’s no need to question my ability to dissect your initial post we are simply in disagreement.

    You believe there’s a double standard I don’t. You’re over complicating things.
     
  15. OpinionOfACasual

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    If you believe there is no double standard, that means you believe Kell was a quitter but Peterson wasn't.....
     
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