Lamotta/Basilio-equal weights,A WAR,winner

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by burt bienstock, Apr 10, 2010.


  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In my eyes these two battlers were as TOUGH as any pair of boxers in history...Given equal weights, both at their best, who wins a 15 round fray ?--What say you ?
     
  2. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    "Equal weights" referring to some sort of pound-for-pound comparison?
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Dick Tiger would crush them both in one night!
     
  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    P4P, Basilio's better defence, work-rate and fundamentals get him the decision. I can see them both going to A&E afterwards, though.
     
  5. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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  6. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    ^^ agreed...****, if we're talking in a p4p sense, i agree with itrymariti. if we're talking about a common weight, like middle, lamotta bullies him and takes a VERY close decision in a FOTD contender
     
  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lamotta would take tiger out.he, tiger is overrated
     
  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You saw what Fullmer did to Basillio. Lamotta would do far worse.
     
  9. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That, but the Raging Bull wins a very narrow decision against the smaller Onion Farmer to earn the right to get to get eaten by the Nigerian Tiger.

    Really ironic, as tigers have never inhabited Africa.:think
     
  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    What, give lateral movement, starve Basilio's work-rate and bombard him with speedy pot-shots from the outside? I don't see that happening.
     
  11. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed, when Dick Tiger was fighting in the sixties, he was a solid strong middleweight, nothing more..Tiger, who i admired very much, was beaten by Randy Sandy,Wilf Greaves,Giardello,Rory Calhoun, Joey Archer,etc.He did reverse some of these bouts,true...But a Jake Lamotta,on the square,not weight drained would have licked Tiger ror sure,at their 160 pound peaks...Lamotta, just as strong, and much more cunning, would never have lost to the men that licked Dick Tiger, I believe...We sell Jakie short by that weight drained tko by the immortal Robinson in 1951...Lloyd Marshall takes Dick Tiger primes at 165,my thinking...
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i agree on all points:goodthe likes of marshall and ezzard charles would take tiger to boxing school
     
  14. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It's too hard to call, in a p4p sense, LaMotta might be stronger still. Basilio has better combos and for that is probably a 'better fighter', so to speak. LaMotta is not getting stopped, guaranteed, and I doubt LaMotta himself is stopping Basilio. I really like how LaMotta counters personally, he rolls and comes under and over with body shots and head shots respectively, it's quality, he's making himself a small target all the time. That kind of style miht not play too much of a role here though as this is simply war. I'm taking LaMotta, the strength comes into play late and he edges it there. It's strange because i might even rate Basilio slightly higher as a fighter.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Lamotta was better than fullmer in every sense. Stronger, Better Stamina, Better workrate, better defense, better chin, better skills, and he certainly took better angles than fullmer. If Basillio thought fullmer smothered him to death...he is in for a rude awakening when he faces a prime jake lamotta.