LaMotta Screwjobs?

He fought such good opposition so often while cutting drastic amounts of weight that it affected his performance at times. But his loss to Billy Foxx for example was a compete 100% Dive.

 

The proof of which is based solely on LaMotta's own words many years after it had taken place.

 

No the Proof is all there before and after the fight...The fight was a farce, Lamotta had a granite chin fox was lucky to be controlled by the mob. Because of this tank job, fox got another title shot, and jake got his promised title shot.

 

There is not a single piece of proof, before or after. Fox wasn't feather-fisted, and LaMotta was injured.

 

Fox was not a good fighter, complete build up leading up to Lesnavich who ko'd him, he did have a win over Artie Levin who almost knocked him out before getting ko'd but Fox was stopped by Ted Lowry and some unknowns..he had big connection behind him but you can not buy all your fights...Lamotta fought and ko'd supreme puncher Bob Satterfeild @ 175 so I think it was pretty clear he threw this fight because Fox was not that good......and got ko'd in 1 round by Lesnavich in the rematch...Jake was too honest

 

Fox might have been not a very good boxer, but he had power, despite the BS Jake claimed about his being feather-fisted. LaMotta wasn't very good boxer either, and he was injured and couldn't do his best in that fight.

Satterfield was a journeyman, and he almost had a chance to knock LaMotta down or even stop him, LaMotta was seriously hurt several times during the fight, and didn't want to take many chances.

LaMotta and word 'honest' don't belong in the same sentence.

 

satterfield hit 10x as hard as fox. not even debatable. He knocked out big ranked heavyweights throughout his career. fox couldnt punch, all his knockouts were most likely fixes. Lamotta had a granite chin, no way fox ever could hurt him let alone knock him out. lamatto took ferocious shots off the hardest hitters at 160 and 175lb and he took many of them without blinking. He was only floored once in his carer way over the hill by very hard hitting naturally bigger danny nardico. fox was a joke, gus lesnevich knocked him out twice for crying out loud, the only not fix fights he was ever in

 

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Neither does "billy fox" and "power" belong in the same sentence

 

I can understand why you say this, S. I've seen it batted about in countless threads; but whether you believe me or not, Jake went into the water on that fight.

Not much of an argument for a facts-'n'-figures guy like yourself, but I can say it with certainty. All I have to offer is my credibility on the site.

But I'm sure there's more than one denizen of "Jacob's Beach" nodding his head, reading this.

 

Nuff said.

 

Satterfield was much poorer boxer than Fox. He had the power, but he rarely was able to use it effectively. Fox's career might've been not most honest one, but only an ignorant fool or somebody like LaMotta would call him feather-fisted. LaMotta was mostly fighting men naturally smaller than himself, as I pointed out before, when he stepped up to his natural weight, he was battered mercilessly and stopped.

JG

Sorry, but my principles don't allow me to trust just words, without a single piece of evidence. No matter how honest a person who's trying to persuade me of the opposite is, I need something more than "trust my words" argument.

 

JG

Sorry, but my principles don't allow me to trust just words, without a single piece of evidence. No matter how honest a person who's trying to persuade me of the opposite is, I need something more than "trust my words" argument.[/QUOTE]

Expected no less, S -- a skeptic myself. If I can't see it or touch it, don't believe it. Just wanted to go on record.

 

Have you seen Fox Senya? Because I have the only two films of his fights that exist and he wasnt that impressive in my opinion both in terms of form or power. The LaMotta fight was fixed and everyone knew it. Read Dan Parkers columns after the fight for evidence of this.

 

your joking right? what film have u seen of either? on film of satterfield vs baker, he presents good skills, terrific handspeed and punching power. I have seen fox on film and was not impressed. I wonder how much he had ever even learned about boxing. satterfield outpointed one of the best boxers of all time harold johnson. He bombed out big ranked heavyweights with skills like bob baker and nino valdez. Satterfield was a consistent top ten ranked contender at light-H and heavyweight, fox was a mob controlled fighter who was knocked out by gus lesnevich easily in his only two real fights. satterfield would have knocked fox out badly, unless satterfield was forced to take a dive.