LaMotta Screwjobs?

Satterfield vs Baker, Saterfield looked like he handled his hands skillfully and even though he lost vs Ezz it was competive while it lasted with fireworks from both men.......Fox was nowhere in his league...and as far as Jake being honest, I met him several times and read his book and he is honest to a fault, no phoney in this man

 

The fight that took place in Satterfield's hometown, and where Johnson arguably deserved a 7-3 or 7-2-1 victory? Satterfield probably deserved the nod in a close 4th round, knocked Johnson down for a second in the 5th, and captured the last on aggressiveness, the rest Johnson was controlling with his jab.

 

Yeah, and he doesn't come like he feels sorry for what he had done, and finds all kinds of excuses for the things he's done wrong, life not fair, people around him not fair, blah blah blah. It can cause no other reaction than disgust and disdain upon reading it.

 

What did Dan Parker write about Fox-Lesnevich fight earlier the same year? The pre-fight circumstances of it being "fixed" in Fox' favour were virtually the same.
By the time LaMotta "admitted" a fix, the statute of limitation had passed, so no criminal prosecution could result from it against him or anybody else, yet his brother (who supposedly worked out the deal) refused to admit anything. Like I said, the only evidence that exists that it was fixed is some gossips (which were rather common thing in those times, and other times too) and LaMotta's own words, and Jake is not a person you will want to trust in his honesty, he's done so many wrong things, there's no reason to believe he suddenly desided to tell the truth. Had he, at least, attempted to rid of the BS description of that fight, I might listen to his story, but all those "the air from my punches was affecting him", and supposedly him lowering his hands and taking a beating without any resistance, yet the fight report pointing out he was fighting back, even when the referee was trying to separate them, etc etc. Sorry, I have zero trust to LaMotta's words.

 

Why not provide a quote of such statement, made by me?

 

1. Read the definition of word 'journeyman'. Satterfield is exactly that, and a very inconsistent one. Big power is an equalizer sometimes, when a boxer is lacking skills, see Earnie Shavers or Max Baer, for example.

Satterfield was able to land cleanly on LaMotta only on a couple of occasions during 6+ rounds, and both times LaMotta really didn't like it. It's not like LaMotta was taking a beating there and was able to withstand it. A couple of clean punches were enough for him to turn into safety-first mode.

 

whatever senya, lamotta took the punches of one of the biggest punchers in the sports HISTORY and came back to KO his man.

if you want to believe that a fighter with a glass jaw controlled by the mob actually knocked out the redoubtable jake lamotta so be it. its obvious more learned people than yourself cant change your mind, so in order to preserve your delicate view of the history of the sport i say maintain your illusions and continue living in a fantasy world, who are we to try to stop you.

 

How many other fighters took the punches of Satterfield without getting knocked out? Over 40. Some of them were worse or much worse than LaMotta, skillwise, and still lasted the distance with him. It proves nothing. The fact that LaMotta didn't do so well in light heavyweight division is telling though, past prime or not.

Fox did not knock LaMotta out, he forced the referee to stop it, when LaMotta was fighting with an injury that made it hard for him to fight back. These are documented facts, not the illusions and gossips you are basing your opinion on.

 

Wasn't Lamotta suspended after the Fox fight and had to testify before Congress? He was not a mob fighter and they held that against him. This was the one time he followed script only in order to get a title shot. I have one Fox fight on tape, three rounds, he don't look that great.

This occurred a long time ago, and the people who were about then and in the scene universally agree on a fix. I have nothing else to go on.

 

LaMotta was suspended for not reporting an injury. Official investigation didn't find any evidence of a fix. LaMotta testified before the Congress many-many years after Fox fight, when the statute of limitation had long expired.

 

He was honest but he was not a Rat...you just did not tesify and live in those days

 

Just wondered, S, what would you consider credible "evidence"?[/quote]


Hey John, you are an excellent poster with NO agenda...your word carry's a lot of weight and integrity with most on this site

 

Hey John, you are an excellent poster with NO agenda...your word carry's a lot of weight and integrity with most on this site[/QUOTE]

Appreciate the props, BD, especially coming from your adopted handle, no better example of a stand-up guy.

 

He didnt? even a washed up lamotta beat 3 ranked lightheavyweight contenders including top contender irish bob murphy