Langford is overrated

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dorrian_Grey, Jul 30, 2024.


  1. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    w/o the benefit of day-before weigh-ins, Canelo likely would've never been any less than a MW in Langford's era, given that the WW limit back then was 142 & there was no jr.MW division. & we still don't know how he would handle fighters that outweigh him by an additional 20-40 lb on top of the weight that he'd already moved up, as Langford did.

    Langford wasn't "rediscovered with the advent of the internet," he's been regarded as an ATG even while he was still lacing up the gloves.

    I already linked to a NY Times article published on December 23, 1913, titled "NEGRO'S SUPREMACY IN RING NEAR END; Johnson, Langford, McVea, and Jeannette Are Deteriorating Rapidly as Boxers," which opens by saying, "The supremacy of the negro in pugilism, which has not been disputed since Jack Johnson won the heavyweight title from Tommy Burns at Sydney five years ago, unless by those who took hope in Jeffries's return to the ring, seems to be at at end," & goes on to state that Langford & his black contemporaries used "to inspire terror among the whites" & "It was the general impression up to the time of the Smith bout that Langford was the class among all heavyweights, white or black."

    Then there's Langford's obituary here, which unequivocally states that "every boxing expert conceded him greatness."
     
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  2. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Canelo was walking into the ring as a LHW as low as when he was still a JMW and was a cruiserweight at MW and above. I very much doubt he would be able to make the cuts he does in the era of day of weigh ins and fighting every month or so. Canelo was taller than Langford, had a longer reach than him, is about as large framed as he is, and while not hitting as hard still has more than good power.
    From my understanding - and admittedly I haven’t looked into that much - is that people knowing about who Sam Langford was had decreased over the years while the likes of Johnson, Dempsey, Robinson, Armstrong, and Pep still remained somewhat well-known among boxing fans. Roy Jones was compared (insanely) to the likes of Robinson and Armstrong at his prime iirc but never Langford because he had fallen out of relevancy for most followers of the sport. When the internet came about and made record keeping much easier with easily available newspaper clippings along with the creation of sites like BoxRec and this very site, Langford began to be seen again as a great fighter again.
     
  3. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Langford was among the inaugural class of inductees into the IBHOF in 1990. There has never been a time in history since he was active where he has not been regarded among the ATGs.