Langford - Jeannette - Full Clip-Real Speed

Thanks a ton. :good

 

That's fine work, HE. I'll watch it a bit later and give my thoughts.

 

This is no doubt a very important find for the evaluation of early 1900's boxers. The quality is great for the age and it displays two of the more highly regarded boxers of the era.

 

Not sold on the decision in favor of Langford, at least according to the footage seen here. His power is obviously ridiculous, but I thought Jeannette clearly outboxed him with his speed, jab and defensive skill. When Sam hits him though, the effect is deadly. The respect they have for one another and mutual sportsmanship is evident and classy.

Do we know exactly which of their several bouts this was? It looks like it might be fight ten in Paris on December 20, 1913. The interstate ban on transport of boxing films would not apply to a match in Europe, making that 20 rounder a more likely subject for a motion picture than one of their matches stateside. (The French Pathe logo is probably a dead giveaway, but I don't want to be too presumptuous here. From what I can determine at the moment though, they only had one fight in Europe, and Langford won the decision. It all seems to fit.)

 

Think it was Langford's counter left hooks that did most of the scoring. Langford's defense looked solid here, and his power forced the faster and more mobile Jeannette to spoil in order not to get knocked out.

 

Could be. Since Joe's work was mostly from the outside, it's more clearly visible on the film. On first viewing, I credited him for getting off first, then either slipping counters by leaning away, or clinching immediately after firing his shots. Jeannette is more initially eye catching with those spoiler tactics. The footage is good enough for more careful analysis though. From the outset, it's obvious that Sam's power induces a great deal of caution by Joe. Jeannette does well to survive those knockdowns.

 

Thank you HE for this film in regular speed, unlike the films of those times that looked like a chaplin comedy. the fighters shown here were every bit as "modern", as todays fighters ,with tons of more experience and
stamina. No wasted motion in this bout.
Langford was a monster puncher, but i just can't see him beating a prime Dempsey and certainly not the Joe Louis of the Max Baer fight, IMO.
That big blond fighter being introduced was Frank Moran,famous for his "Mary Ann" right hand..Great stuff...:good

 

it makes such a huge difference when you see it corrected and in solid good quality.


p.s. any hope of a harry greb find soon?

 

Burt, thanks for pointing that out about Moran's introduction. He challenged Johnson in Paris on June 27, 1914, after knocking out Palzer at St. Nick's Arena the previous September. It helps make more certain that this was indeed Langford W20 Jeannette 1913-12-20 in Paris, in which case those multiple knockdowns scored by Sam should be added to boxrec's detail of the match. (It's this omission of any knockdowns which caused my initial fleeting doubt that the film may not have been this specific event.)

Langford would have been 30 at this time, Jeannette 33. Each would have been around 200 pounds at this stage.

 

Wow ! Awesome !!

 

Thank you. Very eye opening footage.

 

thank you, thank you, thank you!!

 

Superb stuff!

.... and that's Georges Carpentier greeting the fighters before Frank Moran.