Langford - Jeannette - Full Clip-Real Speed

Seems as though you're picking up on what impressed me immediately. What he does is sufficient to get him through 20 rounds of action here against a murderous puncher. By this time, they'd been fighting each other over a period of eight years, and probably held no surprises for one another. They'd just had a newspaper draw at MSG, and Jeannette was fighting a 25 year old Wills to standstills at this time. He would beat Sam yet a couple more times despite his age.

Joe is no slouch in the power department, yet the respect he gives Langford's guns is near absolute. I though he did a good job getting his shots off first while minimizing Sam's opportunities to counter.

Against Oakland Billy Smith, Burley had the lower center of gravity. Here, Jeannette tries to make the most of his height, reach and speed, as there's no way he can stand his ground against the long armed tank in front of him. (Sam had a six foot wingspan, yet stood 5'6-1/2." Qawi's dimensions are one inch less in height and reach.)

The next time I watch this, I will be looking much more closely at what Langford is actually doing, instead of Joe's eye catching concessions to his power. Jeannette was stopped twice in 165 fights, once as a novice, and the second time by Sam when he was pushing 37. This was a tough man, yet Langford decked him with some frequency in their rivalry. This was fight 135 for Sam, who according to my Ring Record Book had never been stopped. If boxrec is correct though, then Joe was responsible for his first stoppage defeat, in their inaugural encounter on December 25, 1905. Here however, Langford looks like Gibraltar, utterly impervious to, and unimpressed by, anything thrown at him.

 

any chance anyone could put the Dempsey-willard fight in real time? apparently if you see it that way it shows jack as the destructive force he truly was...

 

The tragedy with these fighters is that we only get an odd snapshot of their body of work.

With Joe Louis you have a whole portfolio, and you would have to watch about five of his fights to get the measure of him!

We are only observing shaddows of these great fighters!

 

Langford looks great! Very impressive power but what I like most of the guy is how effective he is as a feinter. He also has some of the most concise punching i've seen from this era. Probably the most, to be honest.

 

I think we can lay to rest the myth that all fighters from that time were a bunch of clumsy oafs...

 

Cheers for this, watching now!

 

Well on the other hand Jeanette had great movement skills, a spearing type of left jab, a solid chin, a quick straight right to the body, and the heart of a whale.

This fight took place in 1913. Jeanette was not learning on the job by then. I do agree that Jeanette is a bit wild with the hook. Jeanette was in there vs a prime Langford, but I was more impressed with him than say Sam McVey. I think Jeanette would be a contender today. My opinion of him as a fighter went up.

You guys can thank me later for the video, and the approximate real time footage. I told HE he could share it.

 

I could do that.

 

That would be very appreciated, Dr. Z.

 

Thanks Mendoza and Grantie :good

I appreciated seeing that.

 

Go into a gym and start throwing jabs like that and you will brought back to square one and retaught with the pads. Sorry. You don't lunge, chin up, taking a giant step in, chin up to close the distance.

My suspicion of Jeanette's skills as a schooled fighter are somewhat confirmed here. His heart is unbelievable. I truly believe people were just plain tougher back then.

 

Janitor, you said what needed to be said.
When too many posters spout the old adage that the "oldtimers " look so
primitive,it is , as you expressed, "we only get an odd snapshot of their
body of work ".So true...There are maybe 1% of a Joe Gans. Joe Walcott,
Bob Fitzimmons, Benny Leonard,Jack Dempsey etc ,bouts we see today on
film, and we make a judgment of their ability, based on that 1% bout
available to us...What if 100 years from now [if we survive on earth],
the only films we have of Ray Robinson, was against Tiger Jones,Paul
Pender,Randy Turpin #1,what would we conclude, based on those two
available films left.? That Robinson was from a less modern and less
skilled age... And as you imply, they would be dead wrong...:good:good