There are very, very few non-heavyweights who could have lasted with Langford if he was not fighting with handcuffs on. I don't think Ketchel was among them. Langford was said to always have a heavyweights punch no matter what his weight. Langford by KO>
Maybe but Langford was legendary for being a small guy who destroyed real hwts. If he won the middleweight title and stayed as a middleweight you eliminate that legendary status UNLESS he had an incredible title reign as a middleweight.
Who is ommitting any thing? As Ive stated I thought (and I would have to check again) Sam was only 6 or 7lbs heavier in their fight. I dont see how this pertains to the question I originally asked though. Are you saying Sam couldnt make 160 if the title were at stake? At 28 years old I would bet he could. He did it two years before weighing 166 for Jeanette I believe and a few months later dropping to 160 for Flynn. Now if you wanted to discuss whether he could comfortably make weight and how it may or may not effect him than there is a debate. But please don't accuse me of purposely ommitting anything has NOTHING to do with the question I asked in my original post.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9F06EED7143BE733A2575BC2A9629C946196D6CF Looks like it appeared Langford was 10 or more pounds heavier than Stan. Out of 15 newspaper decisions rendered after this bout the majority gave the bout to Langford.
By all accounts I have read it seems Sam carried Ketchel. With the handcuffs off I think we have a KO. Langford has an argument as being the greatest fighter of all time, something Ketchel could only dream of.
I agree. With the handcuffs off throughout his career, I think Sam would have had a heck of a lot more kayos than given credit for. For all we know, he would be right up there with Shavers and Foreman.
For his career Langford only had 8 less ko's than Foreman and Shavers combined, and fought far better comp. The man was a marvel.