Langford v Wlad?

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    all about the jab....Vlad wins
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    No.
     
  3. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Povetkin entered the top 10 be stopping Byrd, who I think was probably still clinging to a rating after the Wlad loss.

    The Chambers win shot him up to #3 behind Vitali and top challenger to Wlad, but of course he hooked up with Atlas and fought cans for two years and lost his ranking. Both were Ring top 5 at the time of the fight I believe.

    The Chageav win and others cashing out against Wlad helped push him back into the rankings.

    Huck was the #1 Cruiserweight, and while I think Povetkin didn't deserve the nod, it was a close enough fight.

    I like Povetkin, at his best, he's a pretty entertaining volume puncher. He throws good combinations but his lack of defense will probably be his undoing. It will be a good win for Wlad over a well schooled guy who's hung around the rankings for a long time but doubtful it will be remembered as his greatest challenge. If Povetkin could incorporate more head movement, I think he could create similar problems that Brock did, but that's a big if.
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    Hell no.
     
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    These threads are stupid.. Wlad destroys all of these LHW's/SMW's.....
     
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  6. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Can anyone explain to me exactly what Atlas' master plan was with Povetkin. I still cant figure it out. Atlas is considered by some to be a great trainer, I dont (the best fighters he worked with were either already developed or went on to be developed by better people) but his entire tenure with Povetkin seems almost grossly incompetent. He took a guy who was at the height of his popularity and had just defeated two of the top guys in his division. Then look at his competition over the next five years: Timid Teddy made sure Povetkin's career took a complete nose dive. His skills eroded, he fell off the face off the earth in terms of the public, and despite saying Wladimir was a mediocre fighter Atlas refused to let Povetkin face him stating remarkably that Povetkin wasnt ready... in essence Povetkin wasnt ready to face a mediocre fighter. Which makes sense considering Atlas matched him with a succession of bums for the next several YEARS. I mean what exactly was the point? Most trainers take a contender on board and work with him for a gimme fight or two in order to establish their rhythm together. Atlas took five frickin years AFTER getting Povetkin while he was ranked #1 AND REFUSED at least one title shot. This has to be the record for the most inept, bassackwards approach to a fighter in a long time.
     
  7. mcvey

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    I've thought it was bad management myself , but did Atlas have the say so about opponents? If he did Povetkin is well shot of him.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yes.
     
  9. mcvey

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    You have told,and many times repeated more outright lies than Walter Mitty.

    You would not recognize a fact if it hit you in the face .

    I know what you love about Wlad , it's the same thing you love about Jeffries.
     
  10. mcvey

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    You have no idea what my attitude is.

    I'm not going to trawl through Ring magazines to prove a point with some one whose opinion means nothing to me to start with.

    ps Where were the last 4 challengers rated?
     
  11. mcvey

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    Mandatory with who? Thompson had never beaten a Ring rated fighter .
    What was he 39 years old?
     
  12. mcvey

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  13. Terror

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    Maskaev?
    Dimitrenko?
    Valuev?
    Come on.
    Vitali holds a shard of the title.
    I think it's safe to say that a whole fighting generation of HW contenders have lost to Wlad.
     
  14. McGrain

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    No. It's not fair to say that if the best heavyweight you shared that era with never shared a ring with you.
     
  15. Terror

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    Has there ever been a circumstance like this? Two brothers?
    Vitali is older and hit his peak way earlier, fought less, fought a little worse comp., he's a H2H monster but seriously?
    Wlad cleaned it out.
    I'll give you points on the Sugar Nicky V argument though, but anybody ducks SNV--everybody ducks SNV.