Langford v Wlad?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mcvey, Sep 5, 2013.


  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes and Langford was only 41 and half blind.:patsch
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes it is.
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    He was 34 when he fought Fulton.

    Why don't you tell me what years you think it's acceptable to judge Sam Langford's record on?
    Have you got a better one?
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I've got a better idea - learn a bit about a fighter instead of tossing out KO %. It'll do you a world of good. There is lots of opportunities to do so, and it will be enlightening.

    Literally making up statistics, though, is even less helpful than quoting real ones. Both are useless endeavours in trying to understand boxers and boxing.
     
  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I'll take that as a no. Thank you for your input.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    My input into this thread has been considerable.

    Yours has been "guesses" and statistics.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You said Flynn was 44 when he fought Langford the last three times.
    I replied that Langford himself was 41,and that moreover he was half blind.
    I underlined the part of your post that I was responding to.

    More deliberate "misinterpretation" on your part? It's becoming a habit.

    "Langford a light puncher by heavyweight standards" .:patsch

    If you truly believe this, say so and most of us won't waste any more time with you.
     
  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Your comments on the first two pages were very informative and showed marked signs of intelligence and reason. I'd like to see more like that.
     
  9. mcvey

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    I DO LIKE TO SEE A BIT OF PATRONISING.:lol: NOT SURE HOW WELL IT WILL GO DOWN IN THE HIGHLANDS THOUGH.
     
  10. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    langford was at his best as a lt heavyweight. period. i think he may have beaten this guy but it would be no shame if he lost. langford would be unbeatable as a lt heavyweight but certainly not so as a heavyweight, nor was he even in his prime. i see klit by decision in a one two and clinch manner, but if langford clocked him for a ko no surprise as he could have done that to almost anyone. i think langford was the best lt heavyweight ever, in the top 2 to 5 p4p, but maybe in the top 10 heavyweight ; no disgrace at all for a beefed up lt heavyweight no matter how supremely talented.
     
  11. PhillyPhan69

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    Good post....I just question the Spinks-Qawi analogy. As far as Langford goes I bow to you, McGrain and Janitor and am enjoying your back and forth....I just don't remember Qawi being intimidated by Spinks power @ all (perhaps I am wrong and need to revisit this fight), I seem to remember Spinks movement in this fight, never allowing Qawi to get set and using his reach and jab to control the timing and space of the fight
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    Langford aint beatin no Wlad Klitschko.
    He's got a better theoretical chance against Lennox Lewis, and he aint winning that one either.

    For what it's worth, I think he'd box to a decision win against Valuev. :lol:
     
  13. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    If the reports are to be believed, this seems to be the case, there are also instances of them both seemingly taking it easy. I think its understandable though, two fighters can't be expected to meet just weeks, sometimes even days apart and go all out, trying to kill each other, every single outing when there is money to be earned and food to be put on the table. They obviously beat the tar out of each other in some and left it all in the ring, while in others they were said to have traded "cream puff blows"

    Which is why Ovid***ile originally asking for their overall win-loss to judge Langford on is an irrelevant question. Nevermind Langford was in decline while Willis was peaking, its more of a question of which matches were both men not only near their best, reasonably rested, and giving it their all. In those instances, Langford seemed to have the upper hand the best we can tell.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Johnson thrashed Langford, I believe.
     
  15. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A bridge too far.