Langford v Wlad?

Nah, he was hurt. He was hurt against Haye in the 12th as well. But in all fairness, I think he showed good composure in both instances.

I'm on the fence on this one. I can see an argument for Langford setting a trap and finishing the giant, or I could see Wlad intelligently exploiting his size advantage like Johnson was said to have done.

 

I'm struggling to think of ANY examples of a fighters giving up about a foot in height against a VERY GOOD champion fighter and scoring a KO, or winning, or even doing better than getting destroyed.

 

I'd bet big on Sanders to KO Langford.

 

You would loose your money.

 

That argument would normally carry a fair bit of weight, but even then there were enough southpaws that you had to either fight them or avoid them.

Given Sam Langford’s incredible number of bouts, and willingness to take fights under unfavourable circumstances, I would expect that he probably met a few southpaws.

 

:rofl

Langford would get obliterated. Brutally. You clowns are embarrassing yourselves on here.

 

Win or lose, the fight would be a freakshow. Guys given up a foot height just doesn't happen too often.

In the twilight of his career Langford lost to Fulton, who was the same size as Wlad, and beat Godfrey, who was 6'3".

Only modern fight I can think of with comparable propotions(not skill or ability) would be Haye vs Valuev...

 

Perhaps you would like to give us a list of the world class fighters that Sanders obliterated, outside of Wlad who Langford is being matched against here.

 

Wlad is one thing, but get real with this Corrie Sanders nonsense. Langford knocked out Wills, who was no Southpaw but was always in great shape and did more than train for two round blitzes.

Southpaw or not, there's no way you could mistake Corrie Sanders for being a better boxer than Wills. You would have to be fixated on size alone to favor him, and really there isn't a huge difference.

Harry Wills 6'2-6'3" 210-230 76"
Corrie Sanders 6'3-6'4" 208-258 77"

 

No. Jess was too strong, durable, and definitely possessed too much stamina in Havana for any version of Sam to have a chance at outlasting him. Willard used his height for defensive purposes very effectively against The Galveston Giant.

Under the prevailing standards of the era, The Terror would most likely have needed a knockout to dethrone Willard. Films suggest the 6'2" Wills to be something of a stalker, very much in keeping with his Black Panther moniker. His chin was reachable for Sam when Harry was in that posture. Jess typically fought tall though, and was considerably more punch resistant than Fulton.

As great as Langford was, he somehow needed to get to Burns before Lil' Artha' did to have a great shot at winning the HW crown. I do think Sam should have gotten Frank Moran's title shot in Paris, but that's a defense I believe Jack would have really whipped himself into shape for.

Langford would have been prudent in aiming for the LHW Title first, then use that as a springboard to a HW challenge.

Wills is the guy who peaked during Willard's reign, and possessed very different challenges for Jess than Sam would have. Harry had the combination of height, reach and aggression to pose very serious issues for Willard.

Yes, Harry absolutely should have gotten a shot at Dempsey. Nobody disputes that. But his best chance at actually winning that title was against Big Jess, a politically untenable proposal so soon after Johnson's reign.

 

Wlad looks like a doofus, a dweeb, a complete dork [if only in an utterly goofy way]!

On that unassailable basis, I pick Sam by knockout within the first 30 seconds. I've never seen footage of Wlad [or read any articles about him], but I've looked at pictures of his face, and used anthropological analysis of his visage to arrive at my flawlessly logical conclusion.

The science doesn't lie. Sam was way cooler, and he'd be, like, taking on a total nerd, a complete jerkface.

 

mr anubis has some damn good posts as in the previous to this one. agree with his assessments

 

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Nothing against Langford, who's a P4P all star, but if Fulton put him in the hospital, Wlad may put him in the morgue. I don't think Sam matches up well with rangy, powerful fighters with that kind of size advantage (let alone someone as skilled as Wlad). His overall record against good big men like Johnson, Wills, and Fulton really gives me no optimism in his chances here. We're not talking about a green slugger like Wills was when Sam knocked him out.

If Wlad was more open defensively, I'd like Sam's chances more. As it stands, Sam would have a nightmare of a time trying to mount an offense on a fighter who can hammer him at range and doesn't leave many openings between the conservative style and footwork he brings to the table. I don't see how Langford ever closes the gap on Wlad if he decides to keep boxing on the outside. If one were to draw up literally the worst possible matchup for Sam, Wlad would be near the top of the list.