Langford's Record Against Opponents his Own Size

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I agree a lot of those guys simply did not like Johnson but to say that it caused them to alter their professional opinions is basically calling them dishonest ... in addition Jeannette seemed to be pretty friendly w Johnson in the famous sparing footage ...

    When anaylizing the common opponent comments it is important to place them in some sort of timeline ... the comments from many about Langford's superiority may have reflected post Reno when Johnson really ducked him .. post Reno also was the start of JOhnson's decline as a fighter ....

    As far as head to head in 1909 or so all I can say is that either man would have been the best the either every met .. I can see Johnson jabbing him , clinching him, holding him , muscling him and winning a decision and I can also see Langford landing one and ending it ... Prior to 1910 I'd lean to Johnson ... after 1910 I'd lean to Sam ..
     
  2. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Love that poem and it proves the point ... No one wanted to fight Langford and this is why he moved up ... :deal Nice job SB ..
     
  3. burt bienstock

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    I agree with you. No one knows for sure if Ketchel and Langford were on the up and up.i have read pro and con as to had the better of the bout
    in 1910. But we must remember Lan gford at that time weighed a good deal more than Ketchel did. Both were immortals for their respective
    weights..
     
  4. Jorodz

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    couldn't agree more. and if im not mistaken ketchel was only 24 when he died. it's more than likely he hadn't reached his peak. a fight with a 28 year old ketchel for instance may have yield a completely different result
     
  5. mcvey

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    Thirteen days before meeting Ketchel, Langford weighed 166lbs when he knocked out Jim Barry in16 rds.Barrry scaled 196lbs.
     
  6. Jorodz

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    but the 15 pound or so difference during the fight with ketchel could have played a large roll