Lara needs greater strength and conditioning?

elchivito · Jun 9, 2013

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Hey theflyest :good

* The two best people Angulo have fought, were Kirkland and Cintron. Cintron dealt with Angulo without too much trouble, and Kirkland almost killed him. That was a prime Angulo.

Since the Kirkland mugging, and the detention center bit, he has looked completely and utterly abysmal. Have you seen his recent fights?

Someone with speed and skills to go with that speed should have what it takes to deal with someone like Angulo without getting beat up and knocked down.

Ok, if Lara pitching a showcase against him is too strong, then at the very very least, he shouldn't have been given so much trouble, let alone knocked down twice.

Angulo simply isn't that good. His best win is against a Rosado who had 12 wins at the time. A cintron that was demolished by Margarito (a real beast) dealt with him the way a top tier fighter should (and Cintron wasn't elite.... Angulo is lucky hes never fought an elite fighter)

That Lara couldn't deal comfortably with an obviously faded version of an already basic Angulo, while holding a styles advantage, says to me at least that he lacks the goods.

I will say though, that prior to the 2nd knockdown, for a brief moment, it seemed like Angulo was starting to come back to his form. His punches were starting to flow a bit better. If he continues to get his form back in his next fight then Ill take back my belief that hes ready for the taking. But even at his best, Angulo is not true champion material. As much as I like him (and I do)

However,
* Maybe Im being too hard on Lara, and on Angulo as well? Maybe both are better then Im giving them credit for
* Maybe Lara improves because of this

But as of right now, just imo
- Angulo is near done, and is ready to be taken
- Lara isn't the goods
- 154 is weak right now

That all being said, none of this is personal against the fighters nor dampens any enthusiasm I have for their future fights.

Both guys put on a good fight for us fans, both showed good heart, good efforts, and I hope to see both in meaningful matches in the near future.
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:deal Good post I expected better from Lara, him struggling with a lesser version of Angulo has me questioning him. Canelo, Molina, or Trout I think are better than Lara and could beat him.

RafaelGonzal · Jun 9, 2013

kirk said: ↑

Hey theflyest :good

* The two best people Angulo have fought, were Kirkland and Cintron. Cintron dealt with Angulo without too much trouble, and Kirkland almost killed him. That was a prime Angulo.

Since the Kirkland mugging, and the detention center bit, he has looked completely and utterly abysmal. Have you seen his recent fights?

Someone with speed and skills to go with that speed should have what it takes to deal with someone like Angulo without getting beat up and knocked down.

Ok, if Lara pitching a showcase against him is too strong, then at the very very least, he shouldn't have been given so much trouble, let alone knocked down twice.

Angulo simply isn't that good. His best win is against a Rosado who had 12 wins at the time. A cintron that was demolished by Margarito (a real beast) dealt with him the way a top tier fighter should (and Cintron wasn't elite.... Angulo is lucky hes never fought an elite fighter)

That Lara couldn't deal comfortably with an obviously faded version of an already basic Angulo, while holding a styles advantage, says to me at least that he lacks the goods.

I will say though, that prior to the 2nd knockdown, for a brief moment, it seemed like Angulo was starting to come back to his form. His punches were starting to flow a bit better. If he continues to get his form back in his next fight then Ill take back my belief that hes ready for the taking. But even at his best, Angulo is not true champion material. As much as I like him (and I do)

However,
* Maybe Im being too hard on Lara, and on Angulo as well? Maybe both are better then Im giving them credit for
* Maybe Lara improves because of this

But as of right now, just imo
- Angulo is near done, and is ready to be taken
- Lara isn't the goods
- 154 is weak right now

That all being said, none of this is personal against the fighters nor dampens any enthusiasm I have for their future fights.

Both guys put on a good fight for us fans, both showed good heart, good efforts, and I hope to see both in meaningful matches in the near future.
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well said and its kind of my point also, Lara should not have gone hammer and tongs with a past his best basic Angulo. I don't doubt Lara and his boxing skill his pedigree as an amatuer Champion at least tells me he has skill and what he has done so far and so I look elsewhere, he looked very smooth in the body though he has natural muscle tone his body type in shape looks shredded and it wasnt, and he was not throwing crisp shots and he was moving lazily and slow not fast or quick or sharp like a guy who has been doing roadwork and pushing his body, but thats my personal assessment the only other way to look at it is that maybe Lara really isn't that good I see only those two options for now, conditioning is the first option for me andi I will choose that, but if he continues to look mediocre when he has a styles advantage I will say his skills aren't all that .

non-stop · Jun 9, 2013

Lara Threw everything but the kitchen seat last night. I think it wasnt about conditioning problems, it was Angulo and styles make fights. it was like seeing Cotto vs Margo I all over again. I TAKE NOTHING AWAY FROM LARA. Dude GOT BACK UP TWICE stayed composed and landed that straight left till Angulo got his orbital bone CRACKED. Perro got a chin but in boxing there are plenty of ways to skin a cat, in this case a dog. GREAT FIGHT SKILL VS WILL..

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