Another horrible assessment! Power ain't crap if you can't deliver it. Ask Ernie Shavers, the hardest punching man that everybody BEAT. Angulo has a monster motor and power. He can't deliver on both. Angulo and Hill made a tradeoff. Angulo would never be able to deliver massive power on Lara. Lara is too slick and too Black. They instead focused on making this about Angulo's and Lara's stamina making it a war of attrition. It damned near worked. The only time Angulo actually dug shots was when he finally cornered Lara on the ropes after tracking him down. Angulo dug hard to Lara's liver. Angulo also would use a bit more power with sweeping shots when Lara was squirting out with his hands down. That is what got the KDs. What fight did you guys watch? :huh :gsg
Not with me and you guys know me on these subjects. I am usually attacking guys using Angulo's style, but damn. Angulo + Hill were amazing. Angulo did BEAUTIFUL work and nobody is even seeing it! They used the perfect style and took a guy with insane talent and Boxing IQ and brought him down to their level with intelligent tactics. That is what The Sweet Science is all about. It is frustrating as FIDDUCK! :gsg
you mean the same cintron that jumped out of a ring, literally, to not continue fighting against pw after his angulo win? the same cintron who then got shutout by Molina? that cintron? since were playing connect the dots how about chavez/tszyu? I guess chavez had no skill because kostya "blew" Julio caeser chavez out of the water.
agreed. by their accounts Antonio margorito had no skills yet nobody wanted to fight him. you would think that all those guys with "skills" would be lining up left and right to fight a guy with no skills for an easy payday.
Margarito had no skills. Nobody wanted to fight him? WTF? People fought him and damn near beat him, Clottey. People fought him and beat his ass, Williams. People caught him cheating, fought him, and beat his ass, Mosley. That is why he screwed himself out of great fights. You guys are putting a dub on it. Margarito never brought it like Angulo did on a Master Boxer. :nono
well lets see here, case study of Antonio Margorito... ruined prime cintron(ktfo twice). ruined kyvelos. ktfo prime cotto. beat down prime clottey. only fighter to ktfo Sergio Martinez. ktfo lujan. ktfo six heads.
Right. Marg-a-cheat-o got caught cheating and was quickly ended after that. He regularly lost and/or struggled during the period you guys claimed he was getting ducked. He (and Arum) ruined his opportunities. Nobody ducked him. Paul Williams is the ONLY guy that a legit claim for ducking can be dropped. Margarito does get props for taking him on, but alas, he lost.
When Rigo struggled against Cordoba everyone laughed and called him a "Glass Jawed Joke." I'm not ready to dismiss Lara yet. Surviving two knockdowns isn't a mark of weakness. He showed heart which had been a question before the fight with Angulo. Canelo and Trout are very good but I see nothing extra special in them. On any given day Trout, Canelo, Lara, Molina, and maybe Rosado - any one of these guys can come out on top
this makes no sense. Cintron easily beat a prime, undefeated Angulo. The fact that those other fighters were able to defeat Cintron speaks to Angulos limitations. Chavez was an old man when he lost to Tszyu. Angulo was prime and undefeated when he lost to Cintron. Cintron lost to pwill and Molina a few fights after easily beating Angulo.
Margo had no skills but Angulo does? Angulo was taking a lot of punishment and ended up getting KO'd. Margo's resume shits all over Angulos. Also, pwill barley beat Margo. That comment shows me how bias you really are.
Hopefully they make Trout vs Lara so Trout could beat him and this overhyping could just stop already :happy
They were bull**** edits. You want a boxing discussion, but going to toss out every achievement Marg has by saying 'loaded gloves' :roll: Its quite obvious you either are sleeping on how good margarito was, or more likely (based on your 'Williams beat his ass' comment, which is bull****) you have some sort of bias against him, for whatever reason.
a few fights after angulo. more like one, exactly one. cintron beat Juliano ramos in Puerto rico, a guy that was just kod by mike jones and hadn't fought in a year. kermit then jumped out of the ring against pw, then got schooled by Molina before beating career 147 journeyman smith to get his title shot at canelito. angulo was also sick against Kermit as posted here on the esb website. ***********.boxingnews24.com/2009/08/angulo-destroys-rosado-proves-loss-to-cintron-was-a-fluke/ trying to compare the angulo that fought Saturday night to the cintron that fought against canelito is purely ignorant. by your perverse thinking, Garcia shouldve knocked out zab quicker than amir did.