Lara vs Golovkin

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    I checked, and it's not eleven, it's eight. Eight ranked fighters out of 'twenty' title defences is pretty damn poor. And given the state of some of those rankings, it's pretty embarrassing.

    Stevens, Macklin, Murray, Geale and Proksa? This is more than half of GGG's ranked opponents. Calling them cans is pretty much bang on the money.

    And they shouldn't, because he didn't win either of them.

    Rosado and Vanes weren't ranked at 154, either. Rosado is essentially the Chisora of the current middleweight division and Vanes was coming straight out of retirement for a payday coz GGG needed an opponent last minute. Let's not even pretend that's a decent win. Brook is pretty whatever too, given he came up from welter.

    In the grand scheme of things, GGG is a can crusher. But hey, it's not his fault his era is ****, and at least he wasn't losing to any of them.
     
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  2. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not GGG's fault. However this has been a problem at middle weight for decades. It was weak when GGG ruled it and it was weak when Hopkins ruled it. Best you can do is rule it and ideally move on.
     
  3. m.s.

    m.s. Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah GGG needed to petition for Szeremeta to raise him up the rankings, what a lame statement. He had been ranked by the Ring for quite a while, although he didnt deserve it, it had nothing to do with GGG and his people. Then as far as the contenders he fought, all you have to do is look at the Ring magazine rating right before GGG arrived on the scene in 2010, GGG mowed through most of them like a hot knife through butter. Oh, i guess the Ring mag was anticipating GGG'S arrival so they made sure they were easy for him. Wow, are you desperate.
     
  4. m.s.

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    Right Ward couldnt draw flies.
     
  5. m.s.

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    Thats what Canelo did, he gave up his belt because GGG wouldn't weaken himself for somebody that outweighed him already.
     
  6. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

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    Lara and his team kept barking Gs name. But not once did they ever attempt to move up to 160 to make a case for why he should have been considered a worthy opponent. Golovkin whoops his ass back then and whoops his ass now.
     
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  7. Goran_

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    I'd still like to see it and Id still favour GGG
     
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  8. vargasfan1985

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    Go back and check again. I checked against RING MAGAZINE ratings. He beat 11. Not sure how you checked your info.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    Easiest way to sort it out.

    Name the eleven.
     
  10. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Proska
    Stevens
    Macklin
    Geale
    Jacobs
    Szeremeta
    Derevyanchenko
    Lemiuex
    Monroe
    Murray
    Rubio

    I am not going back to re find all the links but I now they are out there. You even left out obvious names, which shows me you didn’t search that hard.

    GGG can’t help all the top guys that avoided him like the plague, like Cotto, Martinez, Sturm, Saunders, etc.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    I apologize, I missed Rubio and Szeremeta. Munroe wasn't ranked, though. The fact that you're splitting hairs over an old Rubio and Szeremeta proves my point more than yours, though. They are exactly what can be called cans.

    How did I miss the obvious ones? You think because I didn't mention them means I didn't know they were ranked? It's obvious Jacobs and Derevyanchenko were ranked.

    No, but that doesn't mean he didn't spend his prime beating bums.
     
  12. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unless I’m wrong, and I could be, Monroe was on the lower end of the top 10.

    Your one post didn’t mention DJ or SD. Unless you mentioned them elsewhere and I missed it.

    You can only beat who’s willing to get in front of you. The big names didn’t want the smoke and we KNOW that.

    The rest that were willing got smoked, outside of DJ and SD. And he beat them towards the end of his rope, DJ avoided the fight for years.
     
  13. 22JM

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    Wow that's a huge list of bums, if ggg couldn't get fights why didn't he moved up in weight?? He could've went to LHW it was packed, I mean it was only two divisions up?? It's ggg own fault he wasted all this year's fighting nobody's but it's his legacy
     
  14. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

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    His legacy is fine. The only people mad about it are people who never liked him in the first place. Hagler doesn’t have a lesser legacy because his biggest wins are over guys who came from lower divisions, same as Golovkin doesn’t have a lesser legacy because he didn’t bow to any silly demands.
     
  15. Hanz Cholo

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    Golovkin Smashes him through the ropes. I think he likely KOs him.