Lara vs Vanes, the day after.

Josesito Lopez beats both of those chumps from last night.

 

My thoughts exactly after last night's fight.

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Lara was coming on strong after a slow start. I only gave Vanes rounds 2,3 & 4. 5-3 Lara who was en route to an impressive victory.

 

Lara was making Vanes miss badly and taking over the fight. He didn't look his best but he was on the verge of outclassing Vanes. He is a bit frustrating to watch, but watching him make Vanes miss so wildly was a least interesting.

 

canelo is not the winner even though he received his reprieve.

the public, even delusional die-hard canelo nuthuggers, wont accept a blown-up ww or jww again(maidaina).

canelo will probably have to fight kirland, molina or at worst bundrage(dzinzurik cant be made as he is coming off a ko loss and draw) which are substantial improvements over ww-shot mosely and jww lopez.

it doesnt matter that its not vanes or lara. all the legit jmw's are all within the same ability of each other and there really is no single individual that stands out as they all have flaws.

i would love to see kirkland/canelo but thats never going to happen until james is ko'd again as dlh knows that he is the one fighter at jmw that can permanently ruin canelo.

the rest can just expose him.

by the way, nice post. i had the fight even like most everyone else.

 

even if you are being facetious, good grief you are dumb.

you really dont even have a clue on how stupid you are to educated boxing crowds.

josesito accumulated a less than 50 percent ko ratio...at jww.

 

it was merely a comment to state how both fighters looked below Canelo's class.

 

I thought Lara was looking great by the middle of the fight. He was really making Vanes miss and was landing some great left hands. In the eight round he seemed to be turning up the heat with the right hook.

 

its really easy to look good when no one is punching you back...HARD.

as for the word class, to this point that has been something that gbp and canelo have bought(other than the rhodes fight) and not earned.

alvarez has nowhere left to hide and no more fighters to pad his record.

youll see; sooner rather than later.

everyone knows this. just not canelo nuthuggers.

 

Receiving the reprieve = winner. Lara or Vanes pose threats. I'm ok with those guys you mentioned as ok looks, but the reward is low and there is at least some risk with all three and none of those guys have any major hype or heat factor to them. I hope you are right but from GBP's perspective, as a money machine, as promoters, as high reward / low risk, I can see them going with Robert Guerrero if he gets past Berto. That would be a guy who fought the majority of his fights at 126 pounds now fighting 28 pounds North at 154. He would be coming off a big win and they are both GBP fighters. Guerrero would eagerly jump at the payday.

GBP just did it again with Amir / Molina. It is embarrassing that this fight is being promoted the way it is. Molina hasn't done hardly anything at lightweight and only has one stoppage in his last eight against mostly guys not even in the top 100 of lightweight. So he poses no big punching danger at 35 and somehow he is going up to 40 to take out Amir who could easily be at 47. Could happen but its just silly all around even if it does. I want promoters to spend their money on legit fights. We can't find something better for a Showtime fight, something more deserving?

Maybe if Kahn wins we can get Kahn vs Canelo at 54. Anything is possible with Golden Boy. If it makes money it makes sense!!

 

Kind of hard to say what Canelo's "class" is, his classroom has been pretty empty so far.

 

Canelo would beat the **** out of Lara.

 

i disagree withn you again. the public is not stupid and the ghost or maidaina cant be made. i live in mexico and most everyone here knows that the canelo hype is bull****. it wasalready building up but the josesito fight was the last straw.

there is a good chance that gbp has horribly failed in their protection of canelo. unlike skilled mathcmaker arum, who artfully guided jr through undefeated, light-hitting but skilled zbik, then on to veteran legit mw, power-puncher rubio(coming off a ko win over undefeated lemieux, and then on to proven steward protegee and southpaw andy lee.

now with the failed dlh you have gomez(career ww), cintron(last seen jumping out of a ring against pw and getting thoroughly outclassed by molina) a shot mosely(last seen begging naz to stop the fight against paq) and jww lopez(less than three months removed from his first fight at 147 and fighting jww eight rounders a year and a half ago where he compiled a less than 50 percent ko ratio). but to make matters worse, canelo has yet to face a legit southpaw in which his division has kirland, trout and lara.

you can really make a case that since canelo wont be fighting until may of 2013, he hasnt had a meaningful fight(for all intents and purposes, the aforementiond previous four have essentially been sparring sessions) and now he must face fighters in his divsion that have either an extensive amatuer record, live real-time jmw experience or both.

gbp has horribly failed in the maturation of canelo alvarez(he shouldve already have faced molina, bundrage or even a dzinzurik) and this will in all likelihood come back to expose him in the very near future.


as for khan, he has to have a gimmie fight against a light-hitter to build confidence. regardless, amir khan is done at the championship level.