larry donald vs max baer

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Why do Vitali Klitschko fans attempt to make his victims look like studs? He beats a 35 year old larry donald and all of a sudden Larry Donald is some world class fighter who could beat great fighters? Ive heard Corrie Sanders is a a freak of nature in the mold of joe louis who would destroy many champions according to one vitali fan, LOL. Ive heard all the exuses in the world for Bryd fight. Ive heard vitali fans try to elevate ross purrity into one of the better contenders through history, LOL. Ive heard vitali use the knockouts of 36 year old orlin norris and Herbie Hide as reasons why no old timer sub 210lb could beat him LOL.



    Now we got people picking Larry Donald, a JOURNEYMAN WHO NEVER BEAT A RANKED CONTENDER IN HIS LIFE, over a Great Fighter who was linear HW champion. I mean dont you think thats a huge stretch? Donald is outclassed in all phases.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    Maybe so, but Baer couldn't box a lick. He lost TEN times outside of his 3 Ko's losses to guys that were not as good as Donald!! Please explain why this happened SuzieQ?

    Donald has a great chin, quick feet, and good jab. These three things alone limit Bear's puncher's chance.

    Donald would be my pick to win via Decsion.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    What ranked contender has donald ever beat? has donald ever beaten a world class fighter?


    Baer at his best is leagues above donald, a journeyman. Donald would end up like earnie schaff.
     
  4. BOGART

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    I'd take Donald all day in this match. On one hand you have a capable boxer with a good chin going against a crude wild swinger who carries a punch. Sounds like a Donald decision to me. Bad bad style match up for Baer. Sure Baer would obviously rate much higher on a heavyweight ranking scale but that don't matter here. Just watch them both on tape and you can tell Baer would probably lose a decision to Donald.
     
  5. janitor

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  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    He beat Valuev on just about anyone's scorecard although the decision didn't go his way. And what was when he was 37 years old.
     
  8. janitor

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    Were Schmeling and Carnera lacking in durability or were they just being hit by the wron man?

    Carnera never took the count in a career of 80+ profesional fights and he was in with a lot of big hitters.

    Schmelings only other knockout anywhere aproaching his prime was against Joe Louis.

    Baer seems to have had that Shaversesque quality where if he hits you clean your legs do funny things even if you have a well proven chin.

    Certainly it wasnt his boxing ability that got him as far as he got.

    Now a Donald win is not particularly improbably here but I couldnt advise you to put any money down.
     
  9. Sonny's jab

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    If Baer comes to fight in serious mood he's gonna win, by stoppage or by decision.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

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    If you watch the film, and study up on valuevs style you will see that since 2005 he has improved dramatically as a boxer, especially his jab which was non existent in 2005 is now a solid one. Valuev of 2007-2008 is a much different better fighter
     
  11. ChrisPontius

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    Schmeling has been stopped several times and in the first round as well. I won't say "glass chin!", but his durability was certainly one of his biggest weaknesses. You can say most of those early knockouts came before his prime, but other fighters of his era like Sharkey, Carnera, Baer, Nova, you name em, none of them had his amount of early knockout losses.
     
  12. SuzieQ49

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    schmeling was 19 years old when he was fighting top heavyweights like larry gains. He was just a teenager!
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    To be fair, he was also a somewhat small heavyweight fighting big punchers in those days, yet he still went rounds with many of them and even won some big fights. I won't say that he had a granite chin, but I think he was generally a fairly durable fighter.
     
  14. janitor

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    Schmeling only had a dozen amateur fights before he turned profesional. The same may be true of Sharkey Nova etc but I dont think it is. He was also as others have said a teenager when most of those knockouts took place.

    Now if Schmeling had more kos early in his career than his peers he seemed to have less at or close to his peak for whatever reason.

    It is also worth noting that all his KOs apart from Baer and Louis were at light heavyweight.
     
  15. PhillyPhan69

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    I was going to give an opinion untill I read this....Wow!