Larry Holmes Latest Remarks, ALI, Lewis,Frazier..

That's the first I've heard about the torn bicep (I've got one too by the way). All I hear is how great a fight it was. Norton was old, he barely beat Young for the title, was smashed by Foreman 4 years prior, had the 3 fights with Ali, and got KO'd by Shaver's in 1 round 9 months after losing to Holmes. Norton probably looks 34 right now, a great build does not mean you are not old. Many credit Holmes for beating the likes of Ray Mercer several years after losing to Spinks.

Again, how many alltime greats did Holmes beat when they were prime or even close to prime?

 

He'd slow down at some point, or points. Whether Foreman could catch him early or have enough in the tank to be dangerous later is another thing tho.

 

That's the first you've heard of the torn muscle? It's pretty commonly said regarding the fight. Larry tore his becep a week before the fight, and he didn't let the media know. In the gym when the media was there he would just move around, making it look like he was working on footwork, then after they were gone he would really do his best to work on the left. Watching the fight with Holmes, having know idea how old Norton was, you'd think he was still in his prime. A lot of times fighters have that one last great performance left in them. That was the one for Norton, just as Cooney was the last prime Holmes performance.

 

In all fairness to Holmes, I thought he beat Norton by more than just a point or two. It was a close fight, but I think Holmes did more than enough to win.

But I'm sure the 1973 version of Norton, or even the Yankee Stadium version of Norton that fought Ali, would have given Holmes an even tougher time.

 

I thought he edged it by 2 rounds. But I thought Norton won the 15th round, I don't go for that stealing a round thing. Norton got the better of Holmes for the first minute and a half of the round, it was even another 30 seconds or so, then Holmes won big the last 30 seconds. No knockdown, so IMO Norton still won the round.

 

Holmes stunned Norton pretty good in the closing seconds of the round with that monstrous uppercut. Norton buckled and appeared to be quite buzzed. And Holmes landed some pretty big shots on Norton earlier in the round as well. Of course, Norton landed some big punches on Holmes in the 15th round, but I think Larry did more damage overall.

 

Well said and spot on! Because of his traumatic upbringing, racial tensions and all--and the fact that he had little schooling-- he makes bizarre comments that he really doesn't mean--the man would surprise you if you met him in person. I never have, but I just feel like he's a kind and caring person.
But don't get him in front of a camera.
He's hard to understand.

 

Yeah, it was the uppercut that had Norton reeling, but Norton also knocked Holmes's mouth peice flying with one as well. It's pretty obvious why it's known as one of the, if not the greatest 15th rounds of all time.

 

Exactly, that's when he makes some of his comments that are bizzare.

 

I dont see why Holmes's comments attract such negative responses from people here.

Personally I think it's refreshing to see an old champion from the 70s and 80s actually having something to say about boxing and boxers of today and the past.

It's funny how everyone on this forum exercises their right to say who beats who on a daily basis, but when Holmes says he'd whip 'em all he's castigated for being "bitter" and "disrespectful".

Personally I dont think Holmes was as good as he thinks he was, but he's entitled to his opinions.
Just because he reckons Lewis and Holyfield are ordinary fighters and says so in no uncertain terms, doesn't mean he's "sad", "bitter", "twisted" or whatever. He's just talking boxing, and he has his own way of saying things. I think many people here are over-reacting to his statements.

 

Holmes is often bitterness and disrespectfulness personified, let us be honest. Time and time again he has made classless public comments. His public persona is impossible to defend.