Larry Holmes, The Thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Sep 1, 2019.


Who Beats a Prime Larry Holmes?

  1. Muhammad Ali

    76.0%
  2. Joe Louis

    32.0%
  3. Lennox Lewis

    40.0%
  4. Rocky Marciano

    8.0%
  5. George Foreman

    32.0%
  6. Joe Frazier

    56.0%
  7. Sonny Liston

    20.0%
  8. Mike Tyson

    44.0%
  9. None of the Above

    8.0%
  10. Other (state who)

    16.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where did I write Ali looked sharp vs Bonevena? Show everyone!

    If you want to see what Ali could do with his hook watch his bout with Bonevena.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Homes was the more versatile attacker, would you say? And yes Ali looked pretty bad vs.. Bonevena.

    HOUDINI might disagree, but he would be wrong.

    As for Holmes having a bad left hook, which piece of film are you judging this on?
     
  3. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All respect @Mendoza but Larry's hook almost never did much besides be there. It wasn't anywhere near as effective as his straight right (much less the uppercut), and was damned less effective than his jab.

    There's not a single fight where the hook made much of a difference...it just served as a heavy slap-type of punch in Larry's combination-scheme.

    I should mention, Larry did have a pretty darn decent left uppercut, and he did have a good hook off the jab (though it was the actual combination together that made it, not the hook by any means).

    I'd love to be corrected on this point with video examples.

    If Larry had had a stronger hook both Witherspoon and M. Spinks would have been out of there imo. Norton too.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    I think 60s Ali was the more versatile attacker, basically based on pure speed and having that left hook, Bonavena was a tough guy, not someone who should be troubling Ali but still a hard nut to crack.

    I don't remember Holmes having much of a good left hook, he could hit hard swings to the body but they were more poorly angled uppercuts
     
  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didn't, the hook was mostly just there (though he surprised a couple of opponents with it in the course of his defenses, they were the exception that proved the rule).

    Larry had a much better uppercut.
     
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