Larry Holmes vs Ingemar Johansson

That's the first reasonable fantasy fight outcome I've ever heard from u.

 

I should have said Johannson wins by DQ as Holmes flees the country the night of the fight to avoid the menacing Swede

 

That's too bad, I thought you were beginning to heal from this sickness that afflicts you.

 

He may get dropped once like he did against Cristiano Ronaldo Snipes, but if he can get hit flush by an Earnie Shavers right and get up, I’m sure he could get up against Johannson and that would surely switch him back on and he would stop him, Holmes may not even get dropped, it’s just a possibility

 

I think Johansson could drop Larry since Larry was vulnerable to the right hand, which caused every knockdown of his career I believe. But also, when Shavers dropped Holmes with the right overhand, it was a surprise, because Shavers knew every punch in either hand. Johansson didn't, and I think Larry might be able to time his counters better and avoid getting dropped.

 

I would favor Holmes just due to his consistency on top and his recuperative abilities in his prime, but Ingo in top form was no joke. If Ingo managed to land his Bingo clean on Holmes I can’t say for certain that Holmes would be able to fully recover and keep Ingo from getting a stoppage.

 

I can say for certain that he'd recover. He recovered from that ATG bomb from Shavers that would have sparked many a heavyweight. He also recovered from that shot from Snipes and he also handled the punching power of Mike Weaver pretty well. Weaver was one of the hardest punchers of the 80s, the Cleveland Williams of his day as far as punching power and physique goes. As an "old man" in his mid 40s (which is ancient for an athlete in any sport) he withstood the punching power of Ray Mercer (who likely was at least equal in terms of punching power to Johannson, he probably exceeded Johannson). The same Mercer who sparked cold a 22 year old Tommy Morrison couldn't knock down a 42 year old Holmes. A 45 year old Holmes withstood the punching power of Oliver McCall who was fresh off a KO win over a 30 year old Lennox Lewis.

And lastly, as a 52 year old relic of the past, he recovered very nicely after being bombed by the right hand of a 36 year old Butterbean. The Bean isn't exactly the best opponent, but he was 16 years younger than the 52 year old grandfather in Larry Holmes and still couldn't keep him down. At 36, he was the young man in the ring.

I think prime Holmes of 1979, to say nothing of Holmes circa 1992, recovers quite nicely in the event that he gets nailed flush with Ingo's Bingo.

 

If the Ingemar Johansson of Sept 14 1958 had stepped into the ring with the 1979 edition of prime Easton Assassin Larry Holmes, it could turn out to be a very interesting bout. Ingo 's Bingo was no joke, Eddie Machen found that out, all excuses aside. That Larry Holmes had good lateral movement, a very fast hard left jab, swift combinations, and a very hard right hand. Ingo would be slowly be stalking Larry, and would be eating left jabs. But in the 6th round, Ingo sees an opening, then crashes home a right hand that makes Holmes head snap sideways, he falls to the canvas in a heap. Larry arises on very unsteady legs, another right hand catches Larry high on the temple, as he sags. Johansson then clips him with a left right combination. Larry gets up wobbly, and fires back a very feeble right hand that catches Ingo on the side of the jaw as the bell rings ending the round. Trainer Richie Giachetti begins to yell at Larry Holmes while Edwin Ahlquist, Ingo's trainer, advises his fighter to finish Larry off. Larry has little bounce to his legs, Ingo comes at Larry like a man possessed, he rains punch after punch, a white colored towel comes flying in the ring, referee Arthur Mercante Sr waves the fight off. Ingo later tells Larry, I Do Not Want To Fight Again, I Do Not Like Trilogies. This fight was an upset special.

 

I think Ingo is much better than he gets credit for but I don't think he is on Holmes's level. Larry is just simply to good for Ingo and wins by UD or late stopage. Ingo probably rocks him at some point with a right hand but he is going to need more than that to beat the Easton Assassin.

 

No Larry does not get dropped. What the hell people got Larry and Smokin Joe dropped in every fantasy fight lol.
Holmes murders Johansson

 

Have to agree. Both were only ever floored by big punchers.

 

I never said he would get dropped, just perhaps.

 

I believe that the bomb that Shavers landed on Holmes was a bigger shot than what he hit and hurt Ali with...plus there was the added momentum of Holmes coming forth and engaging with Shavers, it landed during the heat of battle...unlike when he hit Ali.

 

i didn't say that u did

 

Can't believe it's taken this long in the thread for someone to state what I would have thought was really obvious. I'm amazed at the amount of people giving Ingo's right hand the mythical qualities it's getting. Perhaps I'm missing something but I think of Ingo as the man who was disqualified from the Olympics for being too scared to try against Ed Sanders as well as the one who beat Floyd Patterson.

Put it this way, if Floyd had defended against Liston instead of Johannson and things had panned out similarly to how they did, how does Ingo get on with Sonny when he get his title shot? Would we even be having this thread? Would it have taken three pages for someone to state that Larry Holmes, one of the very best heavyweight champions, wipes the floor with him without too much difficulty?