Larry Holmes .Vs. Joe Louis

Louis to absolutely decimate holmes. that right hand would be the main factor.

 

Unless we are talking an old Holmes, I doubt anyone would decimate him. I lean towards a Louis decision (although I do waver back and forth on this match-up as Magoo pointed out over 3 years ago)....He may even stop Holmes late....but decimate???? i doubt it.

 

Great matchup, old Holmes relied more on
Power once his legs were past it. Larry
had a hell of a chin. Joe Louis UD, both
men get dropped. My ringside of Joe Louis
Got deleted. Im looking to study him more.
McGrain is helping bigtime, goddamn near genius
level analysis.

 

Decimate means to decrease by one tenth.

Louis would be able to do that.

 

So Joe Louis would beat Holmes so bad he would be a cruiserweight.

 

A much harder match-up to break down than you would think.

A 6' 3" 212 lb. Heavyweight, who could send out 'rifle-jabs with power',
and a very fast and accurate right-hand.

Who could move very well in the ring, take a punch and had the heart of a
Lion.

I'm going with Larry Holmes, by a 15-Round Decision, 8-5-2 in Rounds.

Joe Louis comes up a bit short with his brutal-bombs.

 

The best version of Louis closes the distance in the championship rounds and KOs the best version of Holmes.

 

Prime Joe Louis every time...

 

I think Larry Holmes would outbox Joe Louis during the early rounds. Then he would get caught by a big shot and hit the canvas. Holmes would get up and eventually stop Louis in the late rounds.

 

Pinklon Thomas had no right hand to speak of. His jab mightve had more power than his right.

 

Couple of things: Larry was no-way faster that Walcott - no way whatsoever Walcott moved faster and much better and could circle on sixpence - Larry could surprise people with how well he could move when he wanted to (for a bigger guy) but he couldn't move like Walcott could spin out go both ways feint guys - Walcott was a dancing master - Larry moved well but I wouldn't call him a twinkle toes really - and personally I think Walcotts left hand was much better than Larrys too - and more varied than Larrys I think it was faster and more could be used from different angles and speeds and of the bounce too similarly to Ali's - Walcott could flick jabs at you and dance around Larrys jab tended to be more 'forced' - Larrus jab was great don't get me wrong but Walcotts was different and just impressed me more personally - and I don't think Larrys chin was better than Walcotts either -Walcott took booming shots from Marciano all night long - but Larry could weather storms against limited finishers and if Larrys chin was good it wasn't as tough as Max Baers who got taken apart and dropped a few times - I think to beat Joe Louis, not only did you have to be very great and put on the performance of your life, but you needed either to be a little bit quick or a little bit unorthodox - in the main I think Larry was an orthodox boxer and Louis could always get to you if you tried to box tex book and when Louis killer punches start finding the mark I think we'd get the familiar site of Larry being dropped like a sack of spuds and scrambling up with his eyes spinning and his gum shield protruding looking shocked to the world - he would try as ever to roll with it but finishers don't come any better than Louis

 

I agree with you there. I'm actually pretty comfortable with Holmes by descision wouldnt be at all suprised if he KO'd him. Holmes was bigger, longer reach, snapped out a very accurate piston jab and was usually followed by a quick right. Larry knew how to move in a manner that could bait you into coming closer and could bait you into his lead hand, he also had brilliant very underrated ring intelligence he'd know he needs to stay on the outside and that's where he'd stay. Even if Holmes got caught badly with his chin and heart he'd stay in the fight.

Louis is very good at nuetralising an opponents left jab, but he's never had a man like Holmes in there with him with a very long, quick, snappy jab. Ken Norton when talking of Holmes said every time he thought he was out of range of Holmes' left he'd manage to get caught by it. For Louis to win he'd need to get close to Holmes and i doubt Holmes would let him, certainly not enough to win him the fight.

 

So much there I disagree with. Walcott being faster than Holmes? Doubt it Walcott just fired shorter punches with impeccable timing which made them seem fast. Larry had much longer arms and was alot quicker in delivering the punches which produced that nice snap he had at the end of them. Also with this and the fact that Holmes was alot heavier, bigger and seemed to stun most people with his left I think his left was harder. Walcott generally just used his jab as a tool, Holmes used it as a weapon. Walcott only fired his famous left hook when he was very close, Holmes fought on the outside at maximum allowable distance (would help ALOT in this fight).

Walcott a better mover? Definently i'd rank him as the best at HW.

Walcott having a better chin? Nonsense Larry took on much bigger, stonger and harder punching people like Cooney, Smith, Shavers and Tyson. Only a prime Tyson managed to take out Holmes who was 38 and hadnt fought in nearly 2 years. I don't know why you mentioned Max Baer even if his chin was better he didn't use it to the extent Holmes could, Max quit and admitted so, Larry would never quit you cannot deny this. As well as this Baer was no where near as skilled as Larry.

 

I see Holmes footwork being the keyfactor in this and wins a decision, unless he gets caught by a right hand, if he does, then its Good Night Larry

 

Prime Holmes every time. Louis would get outboxed by the bigger stronger faster and smarter Holmes. If an old small Schmeiling ko's Louis and a 168 lb. Conn outboxes him then I can only immagine what Holmes does. Holmes by KO around 11th rd or less.