Larry Holmes vs Joe Louis?

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  1. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i agree.you couldn't seperate lois, louis, lewis or holmes
     
  2. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The computer still goes with Larry Holmes.
    Based on age, size, speed, left jab and chin.

    Over Joe's slower-plodding.

    Joe loses marks, with the smaller guys, Billy Conn, floored by James Braddock, and stopped by an older Max Schmeling, almost out-boxed
    by Tommy Farr.

    Big-slow guys, never a problem with 'The Brown Bomber'.

    Look at all the smaller guys who baffled Joe,,,,,
    a little movement and quickness, completely threw him off.
     
  3. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lee ramage got joe's respect
     
  4. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No matter how you cut it.

    Max Schmeling, entering his bout with Joe Louis.
    In his previous 8-bouts was;
    4-3-1 (3 KO's)

    In his previous 11-bouts, he had scored only '4' knock-outs.

    At age 31, 6' 1" 193 lbs.

    And, he had not fought in 11-months.
    And only twice, in 2-years.
     
  5. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    joe did better against welshmen.:good
     
  6. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has anybody calculated the black -white fighter ratio that Joe fought against.

    He does have the record of '18' straight defenses against white fighters.
     
  7. ticar

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    just look how much problems larry had with fighters with a good right hand...plus he's facing the greatest puncher ever.you think tyson is a great finisher?sit and watch when louis times him :yep
     
  8. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Louis liked to eat right hands too,,,,,,,,,,,,,,German-style.
     
  9. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    yep but he's lucky in this one cause larry punches like a butterfly :rofl
     
  10. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not nearly as much as the people on this site seem to say. Had I never seen Larry fight before, I'd be thinking even I could time right hands over Larry's jabs and deck him at some point with a right hand.

    How many people decked Larry with a right hand over the jab? Not Shavers, not Snipes, and not Tyson, that's for sure. Out of 75 fights, Larry was down in all of 4 fights, compared to about twice that number for Louis.
     
  11. Il Duce

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    Larry liked to whip those overhand rights, in rapid succession.
    They came in faster than Ali jabs......

    Joe, had a problem moving backwards, and would catch to many punches.
    Still a very close fight, with each fighter stunned.

    Larry never hurt by a mediocre fighter, or one with low-rated power.
    Plus Max Schmeling,,,,,,,a 10-1 underdog.
     
  12. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    :yep:yep
     
  13. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    it could be buddy, but lois had harder punches i think!
     
  14. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    :good
     
  15. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    :good

    lois!