Larry Holmes vs. Max Baer

Actually the lunging right hand into a clinch has been used by Wlad, Holyfield, Lewis, Hopkins, and I dare say Ruiz quite effectively in modern times.

It's just common sense, other wise your begging to be countered like poor Coetzee.

In truth you are taking one of Baer's more cagier moves and trying to protray it as amateurish, because you dont really understand what you are seeing.


And against skilled bigger men, Baer threw his right hand with more control like against Comiskey.

 

No, in truth you're romanticizing the flaws of a limited fighter. Baer regularly punched himself out of position. If his opponent was standing within range, Baer grabbed him. If not, he awkwardly braced himself or, occasionally, flat-out stumbled.

 

How is it a flaw?

It protected him from counters and smothered his opponent where he wanted them.

If he missed completely and stumbled? So? He is out of range and still not in position to be countered.

Hopkins teaches this an instructional articles. It is widely used today.

You see where doubling over with your feet planted got Coetzee. At least he didn't look like an amateur getting knocked out of his boots.

 

There's no similarity at all. Why are you doing this? Levinsky was a crude, sloppy, unskilled brawler, not a "boxer."

With all due respect, you can't honestly, sincerely think that Levinsky threw punches like the men I named. You can't believe that he moved like Holmes or Page. Do you have severe vision problems? Is someone reading these posts to you and typing your responses back to me?

 

Why are you trying to use a brawl between two showmen who hated each other and fought in the phone booth as a representation of the decade.

Why not Schmeling vs Stribling?

 

Lol...awesome

 

You're reaching here (much like Baer with that lunge and Levinsky with that weak uppercut).

 

Great grab! I laughed.

Listen, I appreciate your effort so I don't want to sound too negative, but you're being extremely disingenuous here. Finding a few seconds where a boxer looks sensible (or crazy) speaks nothing about their overall traits and tendencies. The fact that you said that Levinsky looked like a modern "boxer" speaks volumes though, as do your attempts to cherry-pick micro-clips to defend it.

 

Someone mentioned this fight and I obliged. Didn't use these as a representation of a decade any more than you were using the Mike Weaver fights as representations of his decade. I think it's a useful fight because it shows some of the flaws and limitations of these fighters though.