Larry Holmes vs Max Schmeling

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    While Holmes is the greater fighter overall I think that Schmeling would have been a stylistic nightmare for him.

    With that overhand right countering the jab the best Holmes could hope for would be a hard earned win.
     
  2. Bo Bo Olson

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    Schmelling aint got the chin Holms has and I'm a Schmelling fan. It would be a good fight though.
     
  3. Lobotomy

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    Max's right was best as a countershot, catching opponents coming in. Larry would keep it at long range with his jab. Schmeling could be extremely dangerous against super aggressive foes. Holmes wouldn't play that game, and take a comfortable decision win.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

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    Holmes may be able to out box Max but there was always danger when Max was in shape he had a great right hand and a very good left to boot, he did kill 2 men in the Ring Frankie Campeel and most blame him for Killing Earnie Shaff.....and had a focused brutal win over Max Schmeling..It depends on which Max shows up but he could be outboxed
     
  5. bumdujour

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    :lol: that is max baer you are talking about.
     
  6. bumdujour

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    take away the louis fight............and what do you have???

    sure, he beat a 22 year old inexperienced louis by countering his left hook with perfection.

    but much less skilled fighters beat schmeling or gave him serious trouble.

    jack sharkey was ordinary, and he gave schmeling all he could handle. both him and max baer didnt have much trouble taggin him with the jab.

    and when it comes to jabs, holmes is in a different league than those two. next to holmes, both were unrefined brutes.

    so a stylistic nightmare???? i dont think so. the punch he countered so well vs louis was a left hook, thrown in a forward motion, so he caught louis coming in.
    holmes jab would be tossed off the backfoot. so this aint louis vs schmeling I all over again.

    and even if schmeling would catch holmes from time to time with the right, holmes would take it and just keep going. his chin was very good.

    and on the inside, schmeling crossed armed defense was a sucker for an uppercut.........and holmes knew how to throw that uppercut.

    schmeling was clever and he was tough. that would allow him to last the distance.

    holmes by ud.
     
  7. Bummy Davis

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    ooops Too much Sun today.....Schmeling had a good style to do damage to Holmes .....I like his chances but a close hard fought battle most of the way...Max had the power edge...and he would ZEE something when Larry dropped his jab
     
  8. spion

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    Good assessment. I would agree.
     
  9. Hatesrats

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    Larry Holmes would chop Schmeling to pieces...
    I'm tempted to say NO contest, but I do not want to take anything away from Max. I can't give Max any advantage here, Holmes even has the edge in power. I can't help but picture a fallen Schmeling after taking several rounds of Larry's jab's and Straight Right's.

    Does anyone belive Schmeling can K.O. Holmes?
    I can't see it going down, tho starnger things can happen.
    (I still don't think he can beat Louis....but obviously we know he did)
     
  10. Bo Bo Olson

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    Do believe what started Louis's down fall with Schmelling was the dropped left jab.
    That was what he saw, and what he studied on speical first in the world slow motion film of him. Schmelling had Joe's fight film remastered, on to slow motion.

    No matter what one says, Louis had a hell of a jaw. Schmelling was teeing off on it and keeping him in a daze all night long. I was amazed at how long it took Schmelling to finally put him away.
     
  11. teeto

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    There's the stylistic thing to be taken into consideration here, Schmeling can counter the jab if Holmes isnt hitting precisely with it, andthe right hand coming over the top is one of the finest, k.o. material, but i gotta pick some1, and i'll pick Larry everytime, he was too great imo
     
  12. janitor

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  13. Holmes' Jab

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    Larry UD, though easy it would not be. Schmeling would be a tricky stylistic assignment for most great heavyweights who ever lived.
     
  14. janitor

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  15. TommyV

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    Holmes UD for me.

    Larry's jab is too sharp and crisp for Schmeling to counter it with his right hand effectively, Holmes would keep it at range. Schmeling would have a chance is Holmes came forward in an aggressive manner but he's too clever for that, Holmes had a very good chin aswell and when he did get tagged (Shavers huge right hand) he got back up.