Larry Holmes vs. Michael Spinks I

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  1. AnthonyJ74

    AnthonyJ74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had never watched Holmes' fight against Michael Spinks until last night. Prior to watching it, I have always heard how many people thought the decision was unfair and that Holmes was robbed of tying Rocky Marciano's record of 49-0. Even Holmes himself claims that the decision in that first fight was the result of boxing politics. However, my opinion, after watching the fight last night for the first time, is that Michalel Spinks legitimately outpointed Larry Holmes over the course of those 15 rounds. While Spinks didn't totally dominate Holmes or beat him up, he did land a lot of punches on Holmes, and he definately outworked him and outfought him. To me, Holmes looked befuddled for large portions of the fight; he never really seemed to figure out Spinks. Spinks, although not always pretty to watch, was rather effective in disrupting Holmes' style and taking Holmes out of his normal comfort zone. Spinks reminded me a lot of Jimmy Young in that fight; moving here, moving there, ducking, twisting, turning, and jumping in with some of the most awkward punches I have ever seen thrown in a championship fight. But he was damn effective. I think Holmes underestimated Spinks, and he paid dearly for it! Yes, Michael Spinks beat Larry Holmes fair and square, at least by 2-3 rounds.
     
  2. ajohnfp

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    I think that's the consensus. The second fight is a bit more controversial.
     
  3. My dinner with Conteh

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    True. I'd say about 80% of opinions on this fight go the way of Spinks. Only people who think it was a robbery are usually the type who've only ever read one book in their lives...



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  4. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Spinks beat Holmes by at least 2 rounds in their 1st encounter, some people were only disappointed, because he didn´t collimated Marciano´s record...
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    I had Spinks winning the first fight 9-6.

    I had the rematch for Holmes, also 9-6.
     
  6. AnthonyJ74

    AnthonyJ74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kind of served Holmes right to lose to a light heavyweight for not fighting the more deserving heavyweight contenders at the time.
     
  7. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Larry Holmes, my favourite heavyweight of all time. But he lost the first Spinks fight, clearly in my eyes as well. He steadily came forward exclusively behind the jab, never threw combinations, and his reflexes and co-ordination had both diminished. Holmes' straight right hand was also not there, which was his hunny punch.

    Spinks basically out-landed Holmes, put combinations together, and showed more variety.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Master of the understatement, my friend!:good

    I had Spinks/HolmesI 8-7 Spinks; the rematch 9-6 to the Big Black Cloud.

    Holmes lost his cool at the end of the first fight, if people wanted to screw him, it would of been a lot easier to of done it in the Williams fight, where the truth was he probably deserved to lose...

    But Larry accepts he was wrong to make the comments he did; and it should be noted he apologized to the Marciano family within hours of his infamous remark, and indeed the Marciano family asked him to accept a Rocky Marciano Award, for Holmes' superb career.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Nice pun. ;)
     
  10. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    So Spinks is about 7-0 up in this thread. Better than I thought.
     
  11. TBooze

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    Nice, you picked it;)
     
  12. Icemmann

    Icemmann Breakin it down. Full Member

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    Been awhile since I watched the fights, but I scored the first one for Spinks, second for Holmes.

    I think what pissed Larry off is he felt it was Ali in his shoes during those fights he would have got the nod.
     
  13. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I like these scores. Even though once could say the round scoring was 9-6 in favor of Spinks in the first fight, and 9-6 in favor of Holmes in the second fight, there is little doubt Holmes performance in the second fight, trumps Spinks upset win in the first fight. Holmes not only out pointed Spinks in the 2nd fight, he also rocked him.

    At times I wish boxing had judicial review as the second fight between the two was a robbery, then I pause for a moment and think while noble in concept, the power of judicial review in boxing would be badly misused.

    Spinks was always a class act in interviews. Does anyone recall how he replied in interview in both fights?
     
  14. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spinks definitely won the first fight but Holmes won the second fight. That was a robbery.
     
  15. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think when people say Holmes was robbed vs Spinks, MOST times they mean the 2nd fight. It was also one of thsos fights were as if Holmes been the legend as Ali or Louis, Holmes might have goting the desion victory over Spinks the first time.