Larry Holmes vs Olexander Usyk

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  1. Yaiyr Alexander

    Yaiyr Alexander Member banned Full Member

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    Current Olexander Usyk vs Prime Larry Holmes
    Who is more fundamentally sound and Who takes it
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To my knowledge, Holmes only fought one Southpaw as an amateur, and was KOd by Nick Wells.

    Still, even though I am not the biggest Holmes fan, and believe that he is comically overrated these days in proportion to what he actually accomplished, I usually say that we should extend courtesy to a great fighter by not comparing him to someone who has not yet finished his career.

    Let Usyk beat Joyce for that WBO belt and defend it against Parker, and then we start to get there.
     
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  3. Dance84

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    Based off what I've seen from both at heavyweight . holmes takes it in a decision.
     
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  4. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes on points, his impeccably perfect jab would be too much for Usyk...
     
  5. It's Ovah

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    Hard to argue with this. I think Usyk is one of the most highly skilled HWs I've ever seen and could potentially go on to achieve huge things in his career, but as of this moment he just hasn't achieved enough to firmly pick him over a bonafide legend in Holmes.

    I'd say Usyk is precisely the type of fighter to give Holmes kittens though. Plenty of lesser fighters did.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, perfect agreement. What Usyk does in there is pretty unique, and people will be singing his praises for a long time after he hangs them up.I also think it is an interesting contrast that Holmes would not unify, or even fight his mandatories, whereas Usyk is openly lamenting that he he wants to fight for the unified belts and they may split off the WBO. Just a real difference in motivation there.

    Still, Holmes is remembered as a great, and I will give him that respect.
     
  7. TheWorstEver(TWE)

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    Interesting. Do you think he beats AJ & Fury?
     
  8. Guru88

    Guru88 Active Member Full Member

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    Holmes comfortably
     
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  10. It's Ovah

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    Honestly I'd go on record and say yes he will, provided there are no ref and/or judging shenanigans. Even if he doesn't I think it'll be the mixture of power and physicality which does him in, which aren't qualities Holmes possesses in great enough abundance to trouble Usyk.

    As Usyk starts warming up in the division I think he's going to start putting on some dominant performances and questions like the above will start to become a lot harder for many people to answer.
     
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  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not a fan of Holmes, and Usyk is still a work in progress, so ask me in ten years time.

    If I had to answer the question right now, Holmes by a very comfortable margin.
     
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  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    A past his prime Holmes schooled Mercer. I had Usyk Chisora a draw. Yeah, Holmes.
     
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  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Prime Holmes destroys him. Usyk hasnt shown anything remotely close that he could come close to hanging with a prime Holmes
     
  15. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Holmes who toyed with Cooney, or the one who SDed a very motivated Norton in a 15 round war, or the Holmes who got up in the 7th somehow to dominate Shavers in my opinion is just about too much for the Usyk I saw against Chisora.
     
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