Larry Holmes vs Povetkin

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  1. groot

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    Larry Holmes would beat Povetkin no contest. Would Povetkin gotten past Holmes laser like jab? Larry Holmes proven ATG Name a great fighter Povetkin has beaten. Better yet, name a fighter Povetkin has beaten clean.
     
  2. groot

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    It would have been no contest Povetkin would not get past Larrys laser like jab. And while were at it make it a 15 round fight both fighters tested clean.
     
  3. NoNeck

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    I'm not sure Holmes beat a great fighter. Shot Ali and Norton isn't ATG in my opinion.
     
  4. groot

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    No Norton wasn't a ATG fighter but he did beat M Ali that more then anything Povetkin has ever done. Shavers wasn't a great fighter but he was one of the hardest hitting heavy weight ever. The right hand Ernie hit Larry with and dropped him you think Povetkin could have taken that punch and gotten up ?
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Holmes never beat a great fighter, that's true. Norton was also at the end of his tether tho still effective vs boxers.
     
  6. NoNeck

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    short bus
     
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  7. groot

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    Your right holmes never beaten a atg but larry holmes is a great fighter 20 title defense champ seven years. Come back as a old man beat ray mercer. Larry holmes atg
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Holmes is absolutely an ATG, i would never dream otherwise. Sometimes i question him in resume choices and what if's in dream matches due to lack of great competition but he is an ATG for sure. If he wasn't you could mount an argument against the likes of Louis as well. You can't.
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    I'm not sure that a 42 year old Cedric Boswell who had been inactive for roughly half his career was either but that's just me.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I would match Gerry Cooney to beat just about every fighter Povetkin ever beat and would even give him a chance at Povetkin himself and the 37 year old Klitschko who hammered the hell out of him
     
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    Cooney had no consistency. He wasn't capable of producing Povetkin's career result and I'm sure Wlad would destroy him for having no head movement.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    If forced to drag 31 fights over a 12 year period the way that Poverkin did then no. He probably wouldn't have lasted. But taken at his very best, which of povetkin's victims would you have picked to beat Cooney on an individual basis ? The exumed remains of Cedric Boswell, Larry Donald, Chris Byrd, Ruslan chagaev and Hasim Rahamn ? Or maybe the light hitting non aggressive Eddie Chambers ? How about il prepared Johann Duhapis who took the match On 24 hours notice ? Frankly I don't see any of these men beating a prime Cooney. And while I'd still favor the 2013 Wlad to beat Gerry I wouldn't make the odds that great. Wlad was 37 years old and only a few fights away from losing his title. He was having increasing difficulty finishing his opponents in recent times and relying more and more on excessive holding. Put a 24 year old 1980 version of Cooney with comparable height, reach, power, and early round tenacity along with a deadly left and it's not out of the question you might have seen an upset.
     
  13. The Kentucky Cobra

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    I have seen reports that Johann was on standby for that fight. Still short notice, but I do see people act like he just called 24 hours before the fight and ran out the door in his trunks, which isn't exactly the case if he was really on standby.

    I think Chambers would actually be an interesting opponent for Cooney.

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    I like the way Chambers handled Dimitrenko. He was very elusive and was really mean with his punches.

    I think Cooney hits harder than Dimitrenko obviously, so he has that X factor but otherwise on film, they are two pretty similar fighters in terms of speed, size, approach, and skill level. I think Fast Eddie has a shot if he can get Cooney in deep water. Chambers did demonstrate excellent survival skills and druability against Wlad before finally getting broken down in the last round.

    I think Chageav also has a shot at Cooney. He was still formidable when he faced Povetkin and has a good track record against slow big men in Valuev, Meehan, and the dangerous Vyrchys.

    Takam vs Cooney would be a fun fight while it lasted.

    Old Byrd...probably sees the same fate as Jimmy Young. Rahman gets Nortoned. Boswell and Donald would be interesting tests I suppose, Cooney should be favored but older vet opponents like that would have been good for him.
     
  14. Outstock

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    Its exactly the case. There wasn't even enough time to find him a pair of boxing boots. He fought the fight in his trainers.

    And 6 rounds to dispatch a guy who was on holiday and had no prep or training is frankly an embarrassing result. Almost as bad as him relining on performance boosters just to fight Mike Perez and Mariuz Wach and the great Manny Charr -
    A bum who was knocked out quicker and more brutally by cruiser weight Mairis Briedis from a punch he threw off the back foot.
    Whereas Povetkin had to put his whole body weight behind his punches to get rid of Charr.

    Larrry Holmes wouldn't lose a round to Povetkin.
     
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  15. groot

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    larry holmes wouldn't have broken a sweat against that tomato can. the only thing pedvoktin can beat is a drug test.