Larry Holmes vs. Rocky Marciano

Sorry, meant era. Louis' term and domination has me impressed.

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Lewis
4. Holmes

 

Now I'm confused...Ive always seen you bashing and shooting Larry down, and yet...you have him at #4 like I do.

 

#4 is probably a fair rating, although if I were to take the time to sit down and redo a list, I'd probably have him somewhere around 6 or 7, which is still a very good and generous rating.

 

IMO 6-3 is a goos spot for Larry.

 

4 is a bit high.

Marciano, Jeffires, and even pre title rein Jack Johnson beat better fighters than Holmes. Sure Marciano or Jeff may not have 20 plus title dfenses. But MOST of that rein is stock up with David Beys. Ezzard Charles, Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, Jim Corbett, Bob Fitz, Tom Sharkey are better than ANY one Holmes beat in his rein imo.

 

Where would you have him?

 

You see that's because you were only seeing my criticism of Larry Bill and not reading my whole post. It wasn't bashing at all, it was simply stating the facts, facts that turned Magoo, who used to debate against us, into one now debating from the whole other side. If you took more notice you would have seen me mention often in chats with you and Z and co that i had Holmes at 3 ATG Heavyweight, now 4. I "criticise" Larry ONLY for his weal as **** choice of challengers in the latter half of his title reign. I think Holmes is a damn fantastic fighter with as much heart and downright determination as i have ever seen in the square ring mate.

 

The thing is i don't yet factor Jeffries, Dempsey and Johnson in my ratings, so if these are excluded you might agree with my #4.

 

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About 7 or 8.

 

Bigger sure but Better?? Charles has beating a LOT of better fighters than Holmes has, both in the heavyweights and lightheavyweight.

 

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Better than Joe Walcott?? Joe Louis?? Jimmy Bivis?? Bob Satterfield??? Holmes only had old Norton, and perhaps Mercer to even sort of compares to this talent.

 

As much as I admire Marciano's record I think that Holmes would UD him.